� Although you still have to sort out your extension wiring.�

Except .... who actually uses extension wiring these days ... since a cordless handset, IF you use a phone, is de rigueur these days.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

The ONT is identical to that found in the previous ONT & BBU housing.

Even the Huawei model number is the same, worth noting the new Nokia ONT (rebadged for Openreach) is a 1+0

Sorry just one observation, I believe the Huawei no longer has a BBU connector (use to be second from right) so anyone thinking of sourcing an Openreach BBU separately will be disappointed.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

While the case for handsets and ATA people self source, this does not apply to the ones such as BT Digital Voice i.e. where they provide a phone port on the router, since they've spent the time making sure it is plug and speak

Although I see that in the announcement on the BT community forum it says:
�If you do choose to upgrade, you�ll need to swap your current home phone for our new digital home phone�.

Why wouldn�t you be able to use your existing POTS or DECT telephone with BT�s Digital Voice Service, given that the Smart Hub 2 has a phone socket specifically labelled for Digital Voice customers? I wonder why BT are saying you�ll NEED to change phones?

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Feb-20 11:37:05)

Need to that quote in context.

No reason why any provider will need to force a specific handset on the public. This was the case with some of the early BT digital voice options a few years ago, which were really dect handsets with extra features built into them - believe other dect phones could still pair with the base station.

That was just a lead that monitored the BBU, the power supply end that fitted into the ONT is interchangeable with that on the mains power supply.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Need to that quote in context.

From http://community.bt.com/t5/Landline/New-Digital-Voic...

"If you do choose to upgrade, you�ll need to swap your current home phone for our new digital home phone. We�ll give you a choice of handsets, free with your upgrade."

I wonder why BT need to force a specific handset on the public to use their DIgital Voice service?

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Feb-20 12:52:51)

Still believe the phone socket on the router will work if you want to plug in a preferred handset.

Believe the BT handsets will connect over wireless and thus support the higher bit rates that give the better call quality, rather than the limited frequencies from traditional phone lines - which the phone socket would otherwise be.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Believe the BT handsets will connect over wireless and thus support the higher bit rates that give the better call quality, rather than the limited frequencies from traditional phone lines - which the phone socket would otherwise be.

That makes sense. Although I do wonder if we�re going to see each ISP providing their own versions of an internet phone in an attempt to keep you captive to their service. BT seem to be setting a precedent here.

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Feb-20 13:20:30)

In reply to a post by cjgpers:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Believe the BT handsets will connect over wireless and thus support the higher bit rates that give the better call quality, rather than the limited frequencies from traditional phone lines - which the phone socket would otherwise be.

That makes sense. Although I do wonder if we�re going to see each ISP providing their own versions of an internet phone in an attempt to keep you captive to their service. BT seem to be setting a precedent here.

The new BT Hub and new Sky Hub both do VOIP instead of using the PSTN line.
The both have standard ATA ports and should work with any old telephone.

From experience the Sky version definitely works with any old telephone.

If BT have gone down the "you need a new handset route" then that is a shame

Edited by j0hn83 (Sat 01-Feb-20 13:46:09)

a question about faults, how will consumers know they have a copper line fault for FTTC, GFast etc when there is no voice side to do 17070 test? as surely if the line keeps dropping sync you will lose the phone whereas pstn would still perhaps get through albeit crackly etc..
So how will faults be identified on Digital lines only?