By the way EoFTTC sold at CIR with burst to PIR. Nothing more interesting than that.

In reply to a post by Highland76:

Yeah but you're forgetting BT/BTB is the biggest ISP out there so economies of scale come into it. Being BT Wholesale's biggest customer, BT Retail can (for example) purchase bandwidth significantly cheaper than smaller ISPs.

I think you'll find they can't. At least I hope so, because that would be illegal.

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In reply to a post by Highland76:

Yeah but you're forgetting BT/BTB is the biggest ISP out there so economies of scale come into it. Being BT Wholesale's biggest customer, BT Retail can (for example) purchase bandwidth significantly cheaper than smaller ISPs.

I think you'll find they can't. At least I hope so, because that would be illegal.

I suggest you look up the meaning of 'economy of scale'. There's nothing stopping other CPs signing up millions of customers (like BT retail) and getting the same discounts from their wholesale suppliers.

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In reply to a post by Highland76:

Yeah but you're forgetting BT/BTB is the biggest ISP out there so economies of scale come into it. Being BT Wholesale's biggest customer, BT Retail can (for example) purchase bandwidth significantly cheaper than smaller ISPs.

I think you'll find they can't. At least I hope so, because that would be illegal.

They can and do and nothing illegal about it.

Openreach and BT Wholesale are not the same entities, and different rules apply.

Small ISPs don't deal with Openreach because they would have to build their own backhaul network out to the exchanges. Instead they can deal with BT Wholesale or Talktalk Business, or anyone else who has such a network and is prepared to wholesale services over it. Some ISPs build out only to certain geographical areas where their customers are.

There's competition in this area, to the vast majority of the UK anyway, so Ofcom takes a light-touch approach.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=a787e...

Can I respectfully suggest that you do not do anything similar to this ever again.

While you are wrapping up a threat as being a part of your disability, this is still is not acceptable on a public forum. In the same way it is not acceptable in public.

Recommend you discuss this situation with your GP or other health professionals.

Further incidents like this will likely result in us filing a report with appropriate authorities, to protect yourself and others.

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

The GPON feeding that fibre is about 2.4 Gbit/s before overheads. The link between the GPON and the 4 Ethernet ports on the ONT is, I think, 2.5 Gbit/s.

I'll let you know how it manages with 2 x gigabit next week hopefully.

The link between GPON and Ethernet on the HG8240BT is 1 Gbit/s - it's based around the pre- 8240H models.

Any attempt to push >1 Gbps through it will result in packet loss rate limiting it down to 1Gbps. Excess traffic will be dropped, so don't order an extra service if on gigabit and try to balance them unless you really, really want the extra upload.

This one can be put to bed.

The secondary service will be a much lower speed service functioning as backup only so availability of 300 is irrelevant let alone 500 or more 😊

That might of been another one of the reasons why they dropped the 4 data port ONT.

Now I am happy that I have 3 spare fibres wrapped up in my CSP, I could have a nice line up my wall of ONT's LOL

I think if any more packages over FTTP happens it might just be for the upload, but we will see.

The current speeds here will last us for a very long long time yet.

But there is nothing stopping them splitting that single fibre going into the home by 4 (like the Splitter Node, but only split by 4) and putting them into 4 ONT's, that way its using the same single fibre.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

But there is nothing stopping them splitting that single fibre going into the home by 4 (like the Splitter Node, but only split by 4) and putting them into 4 ONT's, that way its using the same single fibre.

Paul

Optical power budget. A 4-way splitter in the home will cut power by more than 75% - halving each time for the two splits then a bit of insertion loss.

It's a bad idea from the scalability point of view.