In reply to a post by Sammm_:

If there is FTTC in the area, you could check if FTTPoD is available and pay the install charges to get the work done.

The main problem with FTTPoD is that there's no guarantee how long it will take to get installed. If you place a leased line order, you'll probably have it up and running within 3 months. With FTTPoD you'll be very lucky if it's going within 6 months, and 18 months is not unknown.

The company I work for uses Spitfire for their leased line. They occasionally have free installation deals for new customers.

In reply to a post by Sammm_:

If there is FTTC in the area, you could check if FTTPoD is available and pay the install charges to get the work done. The monthly prices are cheaper than a leased line but it may cost more to provision than a leased line. I know that cerberus networks and Fluid One offer this.

You could also apply for a community funded solution with Openreach who will draw up the excess charges. Once the build is complete you have a choice to go with any FTTP provider rather than select one with FTTPoD. https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/community-...

It might also be worth getting bonded VDSL which again would be cheaper than a leased line. Cerberus offer this aswell.

To add: FTTP on Demand will usually work out cheaper over time but that time period depends on the initial cost which could be as low as a few thousand pounds or up to £40K, which is decided by how hard or easy your install will be. Allow at least 12 months for installation and the first 12 months after that you will be on a 30 Meg upload (300/30 product), although all your jitter issues will be gone.

After 12 months you can switch to different speeds and/or supplier. You could I suspect buy out the first 12 months of that initial contract (~£1440) and move to a faster product straight away, but all adding to the costs.

Given the aim is to have most people connected up to FTTP in the years to come you might find a leased line until such time FTTP arrives at your home for free may work out overall cheaper, and certainly would be delivered quicker. I think with leased lines you need to sign a 3-year contract; the gamble of course is FTTP might turn up in 12-18 months, or it might not turn up for 10 years. Without knowing the future, it is all a gamble.

I'm paying £345/month for 1Gig with Vaioni on a 1 year contract. Signed the contract in October, there were some provider changes in my area and had to restart the process in January. Finally went live this week on Wednesday.

In reply to a post by E300:

I think with leased lines you need to sign a 3-year contract;

Only if you want free installation. You can take out leased lines on 12-24 month contracts if you're willing to pay the install costs - the shorter the min term, the greater the one off install costs.

Edited by deleted (Fri 01-May-20 09:53:08)

In reply to a post by Sammm_:

If there is FTTC in the area, you could check if FTTPoD is available and pay the install charges to get the work done. The monthly prices are cheaper than a leased line but it may cost more to provision than a leased line. I know that cerberus networks and Fluid One offer this.

You could also apply for a community funded solution with Openreach who will draw up the excess charges. Once the build is complete you have a choice to go with any FTTP provider rather than select one with FTTPoD. https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/community-...

It might also be worth getting bonded VDSL which again would be cheaper than a leased line. Cerberus offer this aswell.

I asked Cerberus, they eventually came back with "Unable to quote, must get a survey", they think it's because it's a multi-tenant building. They did say we are 600-800m from the agg node, no idea what sort of cost that would be though.
Bonded VDSL you'd need loads of them to get a good upload speed, and after about 3 it's not cost effective.

In reply to a post by roundrobin:

I'm paying £345/month for 1Gig with Vaioni on a 1 year contract. Signed the contract in October, there were some provider changes in my area and had to restart the process in January. Finally went live this week on Wednesday.

I hadn't asked them because they just looked like a small reseller, maybe I was wrong. Are they cheap generally?

In reply to a post by techeasy:

I asked Cerberus, they eventually came back with "Unable to quote, must get a survey", they think it's because it's a multi-tenant building.

If so, unfortunately FTTPoD is not an option.

https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/ultra...

"We recommend that you discuss the property type with your end customer to establish whether their premises is a multi-dwelling unit (MDU), i.e. apartment block, or multi-occupancy business unit (MOU), prior to the order being raised. Any orders received for MDUs or MOUs will be rejected."

How multi-tenanted is the building? It might be something that Hyperoptic would be interested in serving.

They also have their own network too I believe. I'm not sure if they are always the cheapest. Second cheapest option was AMVIA. TTB did have an offer for 1G for the price of 300Mbps but my area wasn't eligible.