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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 22-Jun-20 12:27:02
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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What does the checker here say for your property?? If no FTTC, then its likely to be an error on Sky's website, ie you're limited to ADSL2+.

Edit: just seen your earlier post, where FTTC isn't shown on the BT checker - so highly unlikely to get more than ADSL2+ with Sky.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 22-Jun-20 12:35:39
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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It might be a mistake since one address within my postcode is connected to a different cabinet (22).

This is so annoying since that property is less than 30m away from my house and they can get FTTC/FTTPoD where as I am stuck with [censored] Virgin Media connection that has crazy latency spikes.
Standard User Fastman3
(learned) Mon 22-Jun-20 21:27:42
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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why woudl openreach want to invest in an area where these is already blanket virgin coverage


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 22-Jun-20 21:36:55
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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Maybe to give residents a choice of ~ 700 CPs who use Openreach infrastructure instead of just 1 CP which is heavily subscribed and congested as a result?

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Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Mon 22-Jun-20 22:15:47
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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I'm sure they don't want to compete unless they have to. More about market share and customer base.
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Mon 22-Jun-20 22:36:49
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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In reply to a post by Fastman3:
why woudl openreach want to invest in an area where these is already blanket virgin coverage


Because Virgin have helped educate the market of the benefits of high speed broadband?

The old saying goes: if you want to start a Chinese restaurant, the best place to do it is in Chinatown.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 22-Jun-20 22:37:33
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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In reply to a post by Fastman3:
why woudl openreach want to invest in an area where these is already blanket virgin coverage


To get users back on their network who currently use Virgin.

In most non Virgin areas there's less incentive for OpenReach to roll out FTTC or FTTP as they effectively have a monopoly over the area.

In Virgin areas with poor OpenReach availability a large proportion of users will be on Virgin.
Bringing SuperFast/Ultrafast will encourage customers back to their network.

OpenReach could possibly even get a better return on investment in Virgin areas as they make more from new customers they didn't have than they do from upselling existing customers.

There's plenty examples of OpenReach actively targeting Virgins Project Lightning areas with FTTP.

Within a few months of Virgin rolling out to my area OpenReach have come along and installed FTTP.
Standard User Fastman3
(learned) Mon 22-Jun-20 23:33:45
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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the commercial case will be poor probably - there will be some overlap on recent new build and probably in areas such as fibre cities -- the business case will have been very targeted in areas that are good and worthwhile - so - openreach only gain the line rental - that about about circa £10 a month -- that all - you had to be very sure of any investment over a significant period of time (probably in a number of tens of years) to cover your investment

you might have be in the right area, at the right time in the right situation
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Tue 23-Jun-20 07:24:04
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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In reply to a post by Fastman3:
openreach only gain the line rental - that about about circa £10 a month


That's for ADSL LLU. For FTTC and FTTP Openreach make more, as they're providing more than just the copper pair.

e.g. for FTTP 80/20 they get £207.36 per year, which is £17.28 per month. OR pricelist:
https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/prici...
Standard User kebabselector
(committed) Tue 23-Jun-20 14:50:54
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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In reply to a post by Fastman3:
Why would openreach want to invest in an area where these is already blanket virgin coverage/


Why wouldn't they want to do it? Virgin had the monopoly for speed in my area until FTTC came along. Quite a few of the Neighbours in my road have switched away from Virgin now there is competition. We've now got FTTP so no reason to stop with Virgin anymore if it was speed you needed.

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