In reply to a post by Taras:

I'm expecting solo ata and or handset base stations to have network access (wired or wifi) to appear .. The bigger problem will be how the less techy section of joe public will be catered for

Yeah, I am hoping for an ethernet based handset or an ethernet based device that allows for a phone to go into that, but either of those two would be fine.

On a similar subject to do with BT's Digital Voice, I did think the other week (not yet tried it myself) was suppose I am using my own 3rd party router which comes with a PPPoE Server.

Now what if I set my router to pass the PPPoE Server to say port 5 and I connect that to the SH2 WAN Port, and I would have the SH2 authenticate with my router ( i.e. user [email protected], etc ) and I block PPP from that port reaching the internet.
In theory the SH2 would have connection to the internet, but just another hop in its route.

I wouldn't be using the SH2 for the internet, I would be using my router for that, I was wondering would the digital voice side of it work ?
Like would it be happy to pass through my router to get to BT's, or would the SH2 just fail to connect.

There is no way for me to test it myself due to I don't want to move over to that yet until I have the option to get a ethernet based phone for use on it.

Paul

I think if you're expecting a separate ATA from BT's residential department to use with your own router you will be disappointed - the key to making this transition work is for it to be as simple as the existing landline service, and I really can't see them putting the R&D time into an ATA product which a very small number of people are going to opt for, especially when the people most likely to even know about ATAs and 3rd party routers will also have their preferred SIP providers already.

In reply to a post by Highland76:

BT Business already offer a pre-configured VOIP (IP) dect handset for Digital Voice, you simply plug its base station into any router to use the service - zero configuration req'd.This is the kit which BT sent me (free), I imagine their Residential sibing will also start offering something similar for those that want to use Digital Voice with their own routers:

https://business.bt.com/content/dam/bt/business/v2/P...

Yeah, I even told BT I would be happy to even pay for that handset if it allowed me to use my own router, BT told me that that wasn't an option at the moment, but they are still looking into different ways to provide that service, so maybe that might become an option.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

In reply to a post by Highland76:

BT Business already offer a pre-configured VOIP (IP) dect handset for Digital Voice, you simply plug its base station into any router to use the service - zero configuration req'd.This is the kit which BT sent me (free), I imagine their Residential sibing will also start offering something similar for those that want to use Digital Voice with their own routers:

https://business.bt.com/content/dam/bt/business/v2/P...

Yeah, I even told BT I would be happy to even pay for that handset if it allowed me to use my own router, BT told me that that wasn't an option at the moment, but they are still looking into different ways to provide that service, so maybe that might become an option.

Paul

You can use mine as its collecting dust

Seriously though, its only a matter of time before BT residential start offering IP dect handsets as standard like their Business sibling does already.

In reply to a post by Highland76:

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

Yeah, I even told BT I would be happy to even pay for that handset if it allowed me to use my own router, BT told me that that wasn't an option at the moment, but they are still looking into different ways to provide that service, so maybe that might become an option.

You can use mine as its collecting dust

If only it was that easy, sadly BT probably still owns that handset hence it being free.
Plus it might use different login information too.

In reply to a post by Highland76:

Seriously though, its only a matter of time before BT residential start offering IP dect handsets as standard like their Business sibling does already.

Yeah one can only hope, but the is a while yet until the switch off, so there is still time

Paul

In reply to a post by Highland76:

Seriously though, its only a matter of time before BT residential start offering IP dect handsets as standard like their Business sibling does already.

Or else BT residential started offering standalone FTTP without mandatory associated voice service.

You could then easily migrate your voice service to a different provider, without needing to jump through hoops such as renumber with number export.

Seperate atas may happen or ones inbult into the base unit. The config can be done via tr69 and if you move service provider, either they chuck the details to the or, you could just phone a number and it will update the unit for provider specifics.

Or we could sim cards for landlines - which resolve it even further.

In reply to a post by Taras:

Or we could sim cards for landlines - which resolve it even further.

Make mine an eSIM while we are dreaming

Am quite a low user as tend to avoid phones when I'm not working so I stay on PAYG (curently giffgaff)

I also tend to buy low to lower mid range mobile phone devices SIM free so I don't have to wait for service providers to pump the firmware full of bloatware or in their words (and I quote) 'optimise the customer experience with their networks'

In my own experience this tends to lead to firmware being sat on for months or not released at all, not great for the customer in my view and of course no wi-fi calling

I am, and always have been an Android user by the way.

But we digress, many thanks for all input, you have more than comprehensively answered my question.


Best to all of you and stay safe, time to spin up the work laptop and get on with the day job.