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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Aug-20 22:17:44
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Let the installer know on arrival, they can strip back and check for light before they start.

Not heard of the ‘inside out’ cabling and the new CSP’s bizarre ???

Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Aug-20 08:27:18
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Not heard of the ‘inside out’ cabling and the new CSP’s bizarre ???


Lets hope it isn't wide spread.. The inside out route with csp makes compete sense, especially when the outside part is problematic.

As much as its a box on the outside wall, its designed so that the cables can be repaired or replaced easily, faster and at lower cost. So its worrying that some aren't using it atm.

I wish you were doing my install (when they sort out the halt on the infrastructure) but unfortunately it won't be the case (sorry a "me" moment)
Standard User jpm
(regular) Wed 05-Aug-20 12:14:16
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Would it be right to say that having ducting coming up inside people's houses is discouraged due to the potential for gases to make their way inside the house? Every new build I've seen has the duct coming up alongside an external wall and then the standard capping fitted.


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Aug-20 12:53:03
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Kind of you to say so ....

... in practice however, I’m a crawlingly slow installer, always think “ if this was my place, what would I do ?” I prefer faulting, it makes one think more.

Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Aug-20 13:37:50
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Kind of you to say so ....

... in practice however, I’m a crawlingly slow installer, always think “ if this was my place, what would I do ?” I prefer faulting, it makes one think more.


A method which, i prefer smile
Standard User AyeUp
(learned) Wed 05-Aug-20 14:23:56
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Thanks guys for the answers.

Picking up on the length of the fibre cable, am I right to understand as someone said a CSP will be fitted or made externally and a futher cable attached to that which will run inside the premise itself?

My concern is that there is only around 10m of fibre cabling rolled up and that won't be long enough to reach the other side of the premise.

Regards


JM
Standard User jabuzzard
(committed) Wed 05-Aug-20 14:28:37
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On the other hand if you have pre existing ducting coming up inside the house then not using it would make any install way more expensive.

There is a huge range of existing copper wire installs and a one size fits all solution to replacing them is simply not viable. Openreach will have to be flexible and adaptable if they want to retire the copper network.
Standard User AyeUp
(learned) Wed 05-Aug-20 14:54:21
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On the other hand if you have pre existing ducting coming up inside the house then not using it would make any install way more expensive.

There is a huge range of existing copper wire installs and a one size fits all solution to replacing them is simply not viable. Openreach will have to be flexible and adaptable if they want to retire the copper network.


Thats the thing, the copper line in the property is already there, its all underground too. But for some reason they couldn't find the existing duct so had to run new ducting and cabling for the fibre.

Regards


JM
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Aug-20 15:43:47
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Of course.. And the inside out - if done correctly can handle those situations. In theory, once you are on fttp, the chances you wanting fttc, is rare (perhaps for fall back).
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Aug-20 16:35:08
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Thats the thing, the copper line in the property is already there, its all underground too. But for some reason they couldn't find the existing duct so had to run new ducting and cabling for the fibre.


If they have already installed new ducting and pulled cable though then it may be that the 10m length you have is all you are going to get. Though you could try asking them to pull a longer length.

Regarding the question of CSP, you have had different answers on here - some are saying that OR will install an internal CSP and then run new fibre from there to the ONT (in which case you are presumably a happy bunny), and others say that they have/are having installs without a CSP (in which case it seems you have issues).

If you do these have issues then there are two potential solutions:
1 - (preferred) get the ONT installed somewhere where you don't really want it, then run ethernet cable yourself to your optimal location for the router
2 - go to fs.com or a similar site and get a length of fibre extension, and then move the ONT to your preferred location. I have read (on the Ubiquiti forum iirc) that some have found this works for them, though it may not for you (and you may be in technical breach of some T+Cs somewhere, who knows). If you want to go this route let me know and I will go and try to find the link to the person who had success.
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