In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If others on the private track cannot order then suggests possibly a way leave issue, i.e. may be way leave granted for repair of existing copper, but install of fibre is yet to be granted or was refused

I neglected to mention that the landowner is a notoriously awkward individual (being polite), and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he refused access.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Why do you need to know how many ports are lit ? For someone ‘learning the lingo’ you appear to be picking up some work specific slang ??

Yeah dect's fault. Saying that I am an electrical engineer and have a little experience running fibres around rigs, so the general concept is not beyond me

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

The kits are used as and when, with , I believe, no additional cost to the customer.

Great, thanks.

In reply to a post by WFHonCopper:

Studying the lines with binoculars I can say that the line from my house goes into a junction box near my house, and then splits into two - one goes to the DP-22 pole, and the other goes in another direction. During one of my more productive calls with BT a helpful lady put me on hold for 40 mins while she made a load of enquiries and then came back and told me that I am not currently served from DP-22 and that's the problem. So the solution was to disconnect me and reconnect (on the same day all being well) via DP-22, with FTTP. She assured me someone would be in touch with me to confirm when they could do it. One month on, I've heard from no one and when I call BT there is no record of this discussion and we're back to computer says no.
Thanks.

Something about this doesn't seem right to me, it would imply that the junction box that feeds your house is served by two DP's which seems very strange to me considering you live down a private track, if thats really the case follow the cable that doesn't head towards DP22 and see where it goes as if the lady is correct you should end up at another DP.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by WFHonCopper:

Studying the lines with binoculars I can say that the line from my house goes into a junction box near my house, and then splits into two - one goes to the DP-22 pole, and the other goes in another direction. During one of my more productive calls with BT a helpful lady put me on hold for 40 mins while she made a load of enquiries and then came back and told me that I am not currently served from DP-22 and that's the problem. So the solution was to disconnect me and reconnect (on the same day all being well) via DP-22, with FTTP. She assured me someone would be in touch with me to confirm when they could do it. One month on, I've heard from no one and when I call BT there is no record of this discussion and we're back to computer says no.
Thanks.

Something about this doesn't seem right to me, it would imply that the junction box that feeds your house is served by two DP's which seems very strange to me considering you live down a private track, if thats really the case follow the cable that doesn't head towards DP22 and see where it goes as if the lady is correct you should end up at another DP.

Hence why i suggest photos, so we know whats what. I do also think its a wayleave issue potentially.Assuming dp-22 is "short enough" to WFHonCopper's premises a wayleave may not be required. I also would presume, if the op is not connected to dp22, having him just chucked on there, would throw the contention and cbt ports to houses ratio out of the window. I sadly think the "BT lady" in question has just told him some misinformation

I took it to mean a DP fed by aerial cable, which feeds in, drops pairs off at the DP then carries further on into the network

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I took it to mean a DP fed by aerial cable, which feeds in, drops pairs off at the DP then carries further on into the network

You may be right.

OK! Here we go.

BTW many thanks to everyone for jumping in with your expertise.

I've been out for a bit more of a recce. My house has the star symbol on it. Existing aerial cables shown in blue, length of 'proposed' fibre shown...
https://thumbsnap.com/bKBYjvKa

DP22 is at the bottom of my track, the copper cables are underground and pop up here. As does the fibre. CBT on this pole with 4 outlets, all currently available.

At the other end of the track is DP60, the copper cables go underground again here. I couldn't see any evidence of DP60 being fibre enabled, but as it was in someone's garden and I was already being a weirdo with binoculars to get the DP no. I didn't want to further investigate. There are 3 houses obviously tied to this DP, and they're about 500m from DP22 so they're currently out of luck for FTTP by the sound of things. BTW I couldn't walk the full length of the cable as it goes through gardens etc. but I assume it goes right through from DP22 to DP60, does that sound reasonable?

Slightly further North along the main road is DP21. There is a cluster of houses here and another CBT, with 8 outlets on it, all currently unused. This would be the logical CBT for all the other rural properties I mentioned. I reckon there are 7 properties in range, so they don't need 'my' CBT.

The property right next to DP22 is able to get FTTP according to the checker. The question remains, who are the other three ports on DP22 for?

Also here is a pic from point A on the above map.

https://thumbsnap.com/SA29W24e

Unfortunately I doubt it really helps, the light was in the wrong place and it's tall. Anyway the line from my house goes into the grey JB and then splits into two. On further inspection I think they both go towards DP22, one as a separate line which is jointed in a few poles down and the other goes into the big black joint on the pole, which is connected to the main cable which goes in DP22's direction but also the same cable heads off to DP60 so it's feasible that I am fed from DP60 today... DP22 is to the right of the photo, DP60 to the left, house is away from the photographer.

Anyway, aren't there objectives for numbers of fibre enabled properties? Surely I'm a quick win!?

Edited by deleted (Wed 26-Aug-20 19:32:11)

My first question, would be why is there cable going to two different DPs. If cables are buried, then, OR has an existing wayleave.

Does your property have two or more phone lines?

In reply to a post by WFHonCopper:

The property right next to DP22 is able to get FTTP according to the checker. The question remains, who are the other three ports on DP22 for?

A 4 port CBT is the smallest there is so the other 3 ports aren't necessarily for anyone.

Edit: can any other houses that surround point A on the map order FTTP?
If the property next to DP22 is the only 1 in your image that can order FTTP then it simply looks the network hasn't been built to you yet.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 26-Aug-20 21:07:29)

In reply to a post by Taras:

My first question, would be why is there cable going to two different DPs. If cables are buried, then, OR has an existing wayleave.

Does your property have two or more phone lines?

It doesn't...