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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 24-Aug-20 19:31:10
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


[re: kommando] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by kommando:
Draytek say it's a firewall limitation.


Hmmm......not so sure on that. I've installed the Speedtest CLI on my Windows 10 PC and have got speeds over 300Mb/s - the test shown below had peaks at 308Mb/s while running - average is 296Mb/s. It may be that the Pi 4 isn't quite maxing out the 1Gb/s connection as suggested by one reply; even though it's plugged directly in to the Draytek.

Server: GTT.net - Slough (id = 24387)
ISP: Zen Internet Ltd
Latency: 11.08 ms (0.13 ms jitter)
Download: 296.00 Mbps (data used: 406.7 MB)
Upload: 48.30 Mbps (data used: 24.2 MB)
Packet Loss: 0.4%
Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/7179d36e-27aa-4c9...



I'm still playing around with the Windows Speedtest CLi and need to see if i can get it to log to a CSV in the same way l did with the Pi (which used a Python script). Problem is my PC isn't on 24x7 whereas my Pi 4 is.

Chris
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(deleted) Thu 27-Aug-20 13:17:00
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


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Just to give my two pence...

I am on the 900/100 service and have a similar setup, but with the Fritz router instead of the Draytek.

I can confirm that, with the Fritz at least, I can get well past 300Mbps. Zen have logged a fault with OR, but even with that, I can get 450-500 Mbps through the pi4 (1Gbps Eth straight to the Fritz), and using `iperf` to another machine also on ethernet, I can get over 800 Mbps to and from the pi, though there was some variation coming from somewhere.

Results below, but my first suggestion would be to dig into the settings of the Fritz to set up PPPoE.


pi@raspberrypi:~ $ speedtest
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from Zen Internet Ltd (XX.XX.XXX.XXX)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by Iomart (Maidenhead) [63.72 km]: 10.031 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 434.68 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
Upload: 88.22 Mbit/s


[ 4] local 192.168.82.54 port 5001 connected with 192.168.82.57 port 50263
[ 4] 0.0-10.0 sec 1014 MBytes 849 Mbits/sec
[ 4] local 192.168.82.54 port 5001 connected with 192.168.82.57 port 50587
[ 4] 0.0-10.0 sec 883 MBytes 739 Mbits/sec
[ 4] local 192.168.82.54 port 5001 connected with 192.168.82.57 port 51930
[ 4] 0.0-10.0 sec 960 MBytes 805 Mbits/sec
[ 4] local 192.168.82.54 port 5001 connected with 192.168.82.57 port 52133
[ 4] 0.0-10.0 sec 909 MBytes 762 Mbits/sec


I'm not sure where the variation comes from.
Standard User Pheasant
(member) Thu 27-Aug-20 13:47:48
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


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I am also on 900/110 FTTP service care of Cerberus (FTTP Ultra 2) on my property in Suffolk.

On my current setup, the following Speedtest.net results using a Lenovo M720q using 1000BaseT NIC cabled though a Netgear S3300 switch, via Cradlepoint AER2200 router to the ONT.

Ping: 6ms
Download: 773.6 Mbps
Upload: 105.43 Mbps
Host: Coreix Ltd

Snapshot taken @19:46 on 16 August, so peak-ish time. No doubt PC direct connected into ONT will give a better result, but that's not really a representative connection.

Router is getting swapped over in due course, which may see a difference in throughputs.


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(deleted) Thu 03-Sep-20 09:43:59
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by ChrisON:
I haven’t contacted ZEN yet because l want to understand if the results I’m getting are within an acceptable range.

Did Zen provide you with a router, worth repeating a few hours testing using this instead of the Draytek.


Finally got the Fritz! 7530 working. Took a bit of fiddling as it isn't just a matter of plugging the ONT in to the LAN1 port (which is what the Openreach engineer told me). I couldn't find any clear instructions on Zen's site on how to do it. It isn't entirely obvious from the router's manual either.

1) Internet --> Account Information --> Connection Settings: Check the 'Via an External Modem Box'
2) You have to specify the speeds. I entered 300/50 but once it negotiated the connection it changed to 1000/150.
3) Home Network --> Network --> IPv4 Addresses there is an option to enter the static Zen IP address. Not entirely sure it's needed but l added it anyway.

It took a few minutes to negotiate but now it works just fine.

I changed from running the Speedtest CLI from my Raspberry Pi to my Windows 10 PC and got the following results.
Draytek 2862 Results

Average Upload : 248Mbps
Average Download : 48.2Mbps
Average Ping : 11.1ms

Result Graph --> Draytek 2862 - Speedtest Results

Fritz! 7530 Results

Average Upload : 277Mbps
Average Download : 48.3Mbps
Average Ping : 11.2ms

Result Graph --> Fritz! 7530 Speedtest Results

To me there is a clear difference between the Fritz! and the Draytek - the Fritz! 7530 produces far more test results above 300Mbps and a higher average speed over the test periods: Ping & Download are consistent between the two.

So, back to my original question. Are these results normal? There are a lot of results significantly below 200Mbps but l have no idea.

Chris

Edited by deleted (Thu 03-Sep-20 10:00:26)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 03-Sep-20 10:51:14
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
For a 900/50 service those speeds are not normal

http://tbb.st/1598039865460825655 what I get from a BT service with same speeds. Standard BT Smart Hub 2

http://tbb.st/1598108113711297155 399 Mbps over Wi-Fi to mobile phone

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User gary333
(committed) Thu 03-Sep-20 10:53:19
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
Thanks for posting update smile. I was looking to purchase a Draytek to run a Virgin Media 500mb and VDSL network together. I have seen low maximum throughput mentioned with Draytek's before but hoped it was only if you had all the bells and whistles turned on. Quite disappointing that a £200+ device is not capable of even 300mb. Does the Fritz have dual wan?
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 03-Sep-20 10:58:08
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Andrew, ChrisON is on the 300/50 zen product!
Standard User danielhyde
(regular) Thu 03-Sep-20 11:27:00
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ChrisON:
In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by ChrisON:
I haven’t contacted ZEN yet because l want to understand if the results I’m getting are within an acceptable range.

Did Zen provide you with a router, worth repeating a few hours testing using this instead of the Draytek.


Finally got the Fritz! 7530 working. Took a bit of fiddling as it isn't just a matter of plugging the ONT in to the LAN1 port (which is what the Openreach engineer told me). I couldn't find any clear instructions on Zen's site on how to do it. It isn't entirely obvious from the router's manual either.

1) Internet --> Account Information --> Connection Settings: Check the 'Via an External Modem Box'
2) You have to specify the speeds. I entered 300/50 but once it negotiated the connection it changed to 1000/150.
3) Home Network --> Network --> IPv4 Addresses there is an option to enter the static Zen IP address. Not entirely sure it's needed but l added it anyway.

It took a few minutes to negotiate but now it works just fine.

I changed from running the Speedtest CLI from my Raspberry Pi to my Windows 10 PC and got the following results.
Draytek 2862 Results

Average Upload : 248Mbps
Average Download : 48.2Mbps
Average Ping : 11.1ms

Result Graph --> Draytek 2862 - Speedtest Results

Fritz! 7530 Results

Average Upload : 277Mbps
Average Download : 48.3Mbps
Average Ping : 11.2ms

Result Graph --> Fritz! 7530 Speedtest Results

To me there is a clear difference between the Fritz! and the Draytek - the Fritz! 7530 produces far more test results above 300Mbps and a higher average speed over the test periods: Ping & Download are consistent between the two.

So, back to my original question. Are these results normal? There are a lot of results significantly below 200Mbps but l have no idea.

Chris


Hi,

I can confirm that the maximum theoretical throughput of the DrayTek Vigor 2862 is 400Mbps.
If you have any of the firewall's additional features like DoS protection enabled it will be lower.

Thanks
Dan

Edited by danielhyde (Thu 03-Sep-20 11:59:33)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 03-Sep-20 12:25:16
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
Ah - the changing connection speeds to 1000/50 got me.

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(deleted) Thu 03-Sep-20 13:44:48
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Re: Zen Internet - FTTP Speeds


[re: gary333] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by gary333:
Thanks for posting update smile. I was looking to purchase a Draytek to run a Virgin Media 500mb and VDSL network together. I have seen low maximum throughput mentioned with Draytek's before but hoped it was only if you had all the bells and whistles turned on. Quite disappointing that a £200+ device is not capable of even 300mb. Does the Fritz have dual wan?


The Fritz! 7530 has no dedicated Wan ports - or do you mean dual WiFi? Has both 2.4 & 5GHz Wifi and it is very good compared to the Draytek.

Chris
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