In reply to a post by gary333:

Thanks for posting update . I was looking to purchase a Draytek to run a Virgin Media 500mb and VDSL network together. I have seen low maximum throughput mentioned with Draytek's before but hoped it was only if you had all the bells and whistles turned on. Quite disappointing that a £200+ device is not capable of even 300mb. Does the Fritz have dual wan?

You may get a bit more on Virgin Media as there is no PPPoE CPU overhead that there is on Openreach based connections (ADSL, FTTC, FTTP). The SmallNetBuilder website has some throughput information for many models, and does not comment on PPPoE, but some of the WiFi 6 routers support 900 Mbps throughput.

Plenty of high end wifi 5 routers out there which support Gigabit speeds on wired connections. Such as the Asus RT-AC86U, RT-AC88U, Netgear R7800 and R9000 just to name a few. Given the high cost of wifi 6 routers right now only worth investing in one if you need gigabit wifi speeds as well. But wifi 6E is just around the corner, so expect prices to drop massively very soon.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Ah - the changing connection speeds to 1000/50 got me.

Got me too. Wasn't expecting to see that. Why does the router negotiate that speed when the maximum l can get is 300/50?

Chris

Edited by deleted (Thu 03-Sep-20 20:03:29)

Same package here. I was on an FB2900 but it was only able to achieve around 700 to 800 megabits downstream. I eventually, recently, swapped it for an EdgeRouter Pro 8 (spare) and I'm now maxing out the connection on the speed test.

Ping: 5ms
Download: 881.09Mbps
Upload: 120.43Mbps

I've since enabled QoS on the upstream, which the router is able to handle, to minimise any sudden and fairly significant ping fluctuations when uploading a lot of data. Downstream doesn't have QoS enabled, both because the router's CPU can't handle that speed and because it doesn't need it on gigabit anyway.

https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/237856b6-b24f-4cd...

Edited by Ixel (Thu 03-Sep-20 20:35:36)

Yeah i was confused by that, but easy to miss read that if reading fast .. I only pointed it out to avoid everyone going down the wrong path.

If there isn't a huge difference in Openreach pricing, or there was a special offer on from Openreach, then the ISP may purchase the higher package then throttle it themselves.

Plusnet once did something like this. They offered 40/20 IIRC, which could only be done by them buying Openreach 80/20.

In reply to a post by Highland76:

Plenty of high end wifi 5 routers out there which support Gigabit speeds on wired connections. Such as the Asus RT-AC86U, RT-AC88U, Netgear R7800 and R9000 just to name a few. Given the high cost of wifi 6 routers right now only worth investing in one if you need gigabit wifi speeds as well. But wifi 6E is just around the corner, so expect prices to drop massively very soon.

Agreed, as an owner of the RT-AX88U, and previously of the AC86U, I know these boxes are very quick, even with PPPoE. However a lot of routers, especially those designed in the US, are not necessarily tested with PPPoE as the US cable firms do not need this, and the bulk of broadband over there is cable.

I didn't think 6E would be possible in the UK, unless Ofcom released more spectrum?

Router does not negotiate speed on FTTP. ONT connects at 2.4 Gbps down and 1.2 Gbps up always

There can be traffic management settings in some routers, used for things like QoS. Setting 300/50 would be marginally low. Especially as upload can burst higher than the product speed

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Highland76:

Plenty of high end wifi 5 routers out there which support Gigabit speeds on wired connections. Such as the Asus RT-AC86U, RT-AC88U, Netgear R7800 and R9000 just to name a few. Given the high cost of wifi 6 routers right now only worth investing in one if you need gigabit wifi speeds as well. But wifi 6E is just around the corner, so expect prices to drop massively very soon.

Agreed, as an owner of the RT-AX88U, and previously of the AC86U, I know these boxes are very quick, even with PPPoE. However a lot of routers, especially those designed in the US, are not necessarily tested with PPPoE as the US cable firms do not need this, and the bulk of broadband over there is cable.

I didn't think 6E would be possible in the UK, unless Ofcom released more spectrum?

Wifi 6E should be coming to the UK:

Ofcom UK to Make 6GHz Band Available for Faster Home Wi-Fi

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Router does not negotiate speed on FTTP. ONT connects at 2.4 Gbps down and 1.2 Gbps up always

There can be traffic management settings in some routers, used for things like QoS. Setting 300/50 would be marginally low. Especially as upload can burst higher than the product speed

Where is the Fritz! 7530 getting the 1000 Down/150 Up values from? I entered the 300/50 in to the router as that's the service I'm paying for: you had to put something in - it changed to 1000/150 itself. Is that the speed between the router and the ONT?

I don't need faster speeds - 300Mbps is fine for me. The reason l started this thread is to determine if what I'm getting is a good service. Zen state '300Mbps Average Download Speed' for the service I'm paying for: the figures l have produced suggest I'm not quite getting that.

Chris