Hi Candlerb,

That's probably right that the CBT is not available to the property.
Openreach might say it needs 5 new poles and a CBT to get the 200m.

thanks for the suggestion.

In reply to a post by Brib:

Hi Candlerb,

That's probably right that the CBT is not available to the property.
Openreach might say it needs 5 new poles and a CBT to get the 200m.

thanks for the suggestion.

special order cable can go 300m plus

If this CBT isn't for you, forget the figure of 200m.
They can't extend from the CBT to you.

They need to install you a new CBT from the existing splitter node, and only if that has capacity.

If the splitter doesn't have capacity (they do up to 32 homes) then you might need new fibre from the aggregation node, a new splitter and a new CBT installed.

All rollouts end somewhere.

Does the OpenReach.com checker indicate any plans for your address?

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 05-Oct-20 21:15:21)

He seems to be talking about two addresses which is confusing or the house in question is not his own[friend/family member].

Yes, neighbours house.

FTTP not available , or FTTC. 6Mbps download. ADSL exchange only,

two ports free on 4 port CBT and two houses left to take a service, if it were available.

As said, if CBT doesn’t serve your property (if it did serve you, it would show under the address checker as FTTP available to order) then you won’t be able to connect to it.

“My” CBT which was put in for our FTTPoD service now enables my nearest two neighbours served by the same pole to order native FTTP should they so desire, however my next neighbour 50m further up the road only has FTTPoD available to order. As expected really.

In reply to a post by Brib:

FTTP not available , or FTTC. 6Mbps download. ADSL exchange only,

I just realised that technically rules out the FTTPoD approach - it is only available to "customers who are within a Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) exchange area and are served by a FTTC enabled cabinet".

Since this property is *so* close to the FTTP network, it could still be worth trying to request the free desktop survey anyway and see what happens. Just don't be surprised if "computer says no".

The other thing you should do is to talk to BT about USO, because the speed available is less than the USO 10Mbps level. Don't be surprised if they try to fob you off with a 4G SIM. However it's *possible* they will extend the FTTP network, and indeed they'll absorb a big chunk of the cost (from memory, the first £3,400) and may include other nearby properties at the same time.

There is "assumed demand aggregation", so that if 5 properties will benefit they'll assume 70% takeup, and hence 5 x £3,400 x 0.7 is up for grabs from the USO fund.

Thanks for your replies.

They have been really helpful.

A bit of an odd situation.

I thought the FTTP had been installed under the USO, but couldn't understand why the last two properties on the line didn't get FTTP.

I have a CFP just started with me and 3 other properties interested at the moment. All on one DP pole. All on FTTC with speeds better than me.

I am considering including the two neighbours houses, I have asked about too bring total up to 6.

Hence the question would they be eligible for rural gigabit vouchers.

I didn't want to rasie their hopes if there was no chance. 5 to 6Mbps isn't much these days.

A BTOR manager told me a pre-connectorised cable-tail, (350mtrs maximum) from CBT to premises are available.

In reply to a post by Brib:

I have a CFP just started with me and 3 other properties interested at the moment. All on one DP pole. All on FTTC with speeds better than me.

I am considering including the two neighbours houses, I have asked about too bring total up to 6.

Hence the question would they be eligible for rural gigabit vouchers.

You're saying that of 4 properties served by the same copper DP, 3 have FTTC but yours is exchange-only? This is weird. Maybe your line was missed, and could be rerouted via the cabinet. People on this forum have managed to get that done, but it's a painful process.

Better to carry on with the CFP process - the end result will be far better anyway.

Regarding gigabit vouchers, the rules vary by area, nicely summarised here:
https://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/sites/all/PDF/Gig...

In general they require your existing speed to be under either 100M or 30M - which is certainly true for you, but it may or may not be true for your neighbours on FTTC.

All voucher applicants must commit to taking an FTTP service which is a "step change", meaning at least double their current speed and at least 30M. Plus you have to meet the relevant definition of "rural" of course.

The fact that there's an existing CBT 200m away, which serves different properties, is completely irrelevant - except that having existing FTTP network close by may mean a better chance that the CFP build cost comes in under your voucher budget.