none of this makes any sense, i suspect the CFP process will shake out what is happening. The point is that this house is not his but a friends' and Brib's is 200m away with 59mbits. something is wrong.

Maybe a diagram will help (or make matters worse- i'm not sure). I think the combination of brib's explanation(in bits) and standard forum blindness, means we aren't getting things right.

In reply to a post by Taras:

none of this makes any sense

This thread is very very confusing 🤯

Sorry it's confusing.

I'm not 200m from him. I'm 800m away on same exchange but I'm on FTTC on a cabinet.
I didn't ever get 59Mbps, although it would have been nice. Did once sync at 55000.

No, it's not my house, it's a neighbour. A good 10 mins away walking. There is one house between us. I've been to look this morning every pole has electricity on it, the phone is just spanned on those poles.

In reply to a post by Taras:

none of this makes any sense, i suspect the CFP process will shake out what is happening.

I think you are right. It will be the only way to know.

I just wondered, if anyone else had experience of something like this.

Sorry again. Thanks for trying to help.

Yes they are ..... but they ought to be connected to a CBT that is planned for that properties use.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

You're saying that of 4 properties served by the same copper DP, 3 have FTTC but yours is exchange-only? This is weird. Maybe your line was missed, and could be rerouted via the cabinet. People on this forum have managed to get that done, but it's a painful process.

Better to carry on with the CFP process - the end result will be far better anyway.

Regarding gigabit vouchers, the rules vary by area, nicely summarised here:
https://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/sites/all/PDF/Gig...

In general they require your existing speed to be under either 100M or 30M - which is certainly true for you, but it may or may not be true for your neighbours on FTTC.

All voucher applicants must commit to taking an FTTP service which is a "step change", meaning at least double their current speed and at least 30M. Plus you have to meet the relevant definition of "rural" of course.

The fact that there's an existing CBT 200m away, which serves different properties, is completely irrelevant - except that having existing FTTP network close by may mean a better chance that the CFP build cost comes in under your voucher budget.

No I'm not exchange only. I'm on FTTC 35Mbps down 6.5 up.
It will be no trouble doubling it. Fibre 100 maybe.

Maybe we should end this thread?

I'll post and tell everyone what the outcome is.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes they are ..... but they ought to be connected to a CBT that is planned for that properties use.

Do you think it's because the poles are not Openreach? Hence not planned?

There are only 4 houses to the CBT, two are connected as they are close to the CBT two are not, everything else is fields.

Thanks to APTMAN re: 350m connectorised cable

Edited by Brib (Tue 06-Oct-20 13:04:34)

In reply to a post by Brib:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes they are ..... but they ought to be connected to a CBT that is planned for that properties use.

Do you think it's because the poles are not Openreach? Hence not planned?

There are only 4 houses to the CBT, two are connected as they are close to the CBT two are not, everything else is fields.

Thanks to APTMAN re: 350m connectorised cable

I’m going to reserve all judgement. There appears to be a fair deal of ‘misinformation’ floating around in this thread.

CBT’s will have addresses they are designed to cover. There’s a full fibre estate just down the road from me, it doesn’t therefore follow that I can just demand a connection off of one of their CBT’s.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

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I’m going to reserve all judgement. There appears to be a fair deal of ‘misinformation’ floating around in this thread.

CBT’s will have addresses they are designed to cover. There’s a full fibre estate just down the road from me, it doesn’t therefore follow that I can just demand a connection off of one of their CBT’s.

Fair enough, a wise choice.

just to be aware most unlikely that openreach would accept a CFP for a single property (you are not a community) -- that would need to be a fibre of Demand offer

the CBT needs to be no more that 160 metres from premises (150 out and 10 in) any thign else wont work

this thread is very confusing and not sure really what the length of CBT even has to do with it

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

the CBT needs to be no more that 160 metres from premises (150 out and 10 in) any thign else wont work

Incorrect.

The connectorised cables from CBT to property come in lengths from 33m (maybe smaller available now?) all the way to 350m.

There's now CSP's being deployed again making the reach even further than before.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 07-Oct-20 00:51:22)