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Standard User Pheasant
(member) Wed 07-Oct-20 07:31:36
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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Hi All,

Can anyone tell me if a property 200m from cbt would be eligible for the rural gigabit voucher scheme/ Community Fibre partnership. The houses near to the CBT are connected to FTTP. Openreach checker says ADSL2.

Thanks

Brian

Brian - have you approached the folks who are connected to the CBT to find out how they came about their FTTP connections?

Are there any other premises connected by the same spine of cabling serving that CBT? It could be that it’s actually not part of a FTTP rollout and simply and On Demand FTTP connection just for those propertie(s).

Edited to add - if the premises you would like to get FTTP is already getting FTTC, then you may wish to get a (free) desktop quote for FTTP On Demand - that may in some way guide or inform your thinking whether that’s viable or potentially any other further scheme or vouchers etc.

Also your original question and subsequent chat about distance to existing CBT and whether connectorised or indeed other connection is available/possible to you is all a bit of a red herring. This should not really be used to inform you of any possibility, ease, reduced cost etc of your possible future connection - other than giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that there is some FTTP in the vicinity.

Edited by Pheasant (Wed 07-Oct-20 07:43:46)

Standard User Fastman3
(regular) Wed 07-Oct-20 12:17:20
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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what lengst it comes in is nether here nor there - my point still stands
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 07-Oct-20 12:33:40
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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what lengst it comes in is nether here nor there - my point still stands


What point would that be? I don't see any valid points in your post, mainly garbage.

You said they can't get a CFP for a single property. They never said they were asking for a single property but multiple times have said it's numerous properties.

You advised they would need to get FTTPoD instead. They have stated multiple times the main priority in question is an EO line so cannot use FTTPoD.

You then posted further incorrect info about distance limits from CBT to ONT. The reality is the distance possible is over double what you claimed.

I'm not even sure you took the time to read the thread.


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Standard User Brib
(learned) Wed 07-Oct-20 13:35:11
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Brian - have you approached the folks who are connected to the CBT to find out how they came about their FTTP connections?

Are there any other premises connected by the same spine of cabling serving that CBT? It could be that it’s actually not part of a FTTP rollout and simply and On Demand FTTP connection just for those propertie(s).

Edited to add - if the premises you would like to get FTTP is already getting FTTC, then you may wish to get a (free) desktop quote for FTTP On Demand - that may in some way guide or inform your thinking whether that’s viable or potentially any other further scheme or vouchers etc.

Also your original question and subsequent chat about distance to existing CBT and whether connectorised or indeed other connection is available/possible to you is all a bit of a red herring. This should not really be used to inform you of any possibility, ease, reduced cost etc of your possible future connection - other than giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that there is some FTTP in the vicinity.


No, but I will ask about the FTTP connections. I'm almost certain FTTPod was not available. Then it said FTTP on the way, as most properties had less than 10Mbps,approximate distance from the exchange 1.5km.

There are 17 properties on the same post code which shows up as Openreach native FTTP and these two can't get anthing but ADSL. Which is what the other properties used to receive as they were direct to the exchange.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User Pheasant
(member) Wed 07-Oct-20 13:53:26
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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OK got it. All of the 17 properties, including the 2 now connected to that CBT were all previously just EO connected. There is/was no nearby cabinet and no FTTC available. Before FTTP “appeared” the best they could get was ADSL2.

Presumably this is the same connectivity for this other property that is 200m away from the fated CBT?

I’m slow, bear with me smile
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 07-Oct-20 14:00:07
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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I had a look at Brian's previous posts, and from that i'm gustinmating that Brain's friend sadly got missed because it was a fttpod install. Theres only about 6 postcodes with native fttp around him. I can understand why brian didn't want explain further.

If others are wishing to have fttp around him and have been missed cfp may be the route to go as the infrastructure is now there.
Standard User Brib
(learned) Wed 07-Oct-20 14:24:55
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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OK got it. All of the 17 properties, including the 2 now connected to that CBT were all previously just EO connected. There is/was no nearby cabinet and no FTTC available. Before FTTP “appeared” the best they could get was ADSL2.

Presumably this is the same connectivity for this other property that is 200m away from the fated CBT?

I’m slow, bear with me smile



Yes, he gets about 4Mbps down.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User Brib
(learned) Wed 07-Oct-20 14:35:21
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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I had a look at Brian's previous posts, and from that i'm gustinmating that Brain's friend sadly got missed because it was a fttpod install. Theres only about 6 postcodes with native fttp around him. I can understand why brian didn't want explain further.

If others are wishing to have fttp around him and have been missed cfp may be the route to go as the infrastructure is now there.


I just checked with one of the ones that got FTTP, no it wasn't FTTPOD.

Most of the native FTTP postcodes where either EO lines or really long lines. sub 4Mbps.

Even the postcodes that show as native FTTP, some are a single EO line with same postcode properties on a cabinet.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User AL66
(member) Wed 07-Oct-20 15:39:50
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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I don’t think you’ve told us where the property is? Postcode of the general area would do. Seems likely to me the existing FTTP is the result of a BDUK project - if so you need to contact the relevant project to see if they can tell you the status of the ADSL only property you’re interested in and why it’s not been included so far.

How long ago did the existing FTTP appear? It maybe the install for the area isn’t completely finished yet.

What does the openreach.com availability tool say for the address under ‘FTTP’? It will either say ‘no plans, etc’ or ‘ Faster and more reliable fibre is coming to your area soon. etc’.
Standard User Brib
(learned) Wed 07-Oct-20 17:05:38
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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I don’t think you’ve told us where the property is? Postcode of the general area would do. Seems likely to me the existing FTTP is the result of a BDUK project - if so you need to contact the relevant project to see if they can tell you the status of the ADSL only property you’re interested in and why it’s not been included so far.

How long ago did the existing FTTP appear? It maybe the install for the area isn’t completely finished yet.

What does the openreach.com availability tool say for the address under ‘FTTP’? It will either say ‘no plans, etc’ or ‘ Faster and more reliable fibre is coming to your area soon. etc’.


Thanks AL66

The postcode is ST10 3BD

Late 2019 I think. Maybe early this year, Jan/Feb

DSL checker says FTTP not available

max observed 14.3 down 0.83 up ADSL 2

I'm sure 4Mbps was mentioned not 14. Well that's the USO below below 10meg out of the window.

Like you said BDUK then.

Openreach fibre says we don't have plans for your area.

Doh! Well at least we know he will be eligible for the Rural vouchers.

The house on the CBT says of course FTTP available.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
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