how broadband will be provided to houses that have no fibre connection in 2025?

The same as now?

Very helpful! How is that please?

Nothing changes to broadband in 2025

its only voice over copper thats being discontinued not all copper services

In reply to a post by mikejp:

Out of interest, RobertoS, do you know how broadband will be provided to houses that have no fibre connection in 2025?

Over the copper wires. Only the voice service is planned to stop. Those whom want a traditional "landline" will end up plugging the phone into the back of their ISP supplied router, often known as a "hub".

Whilst currently BT provides my Voice Circuit and Andrews & Arnold provide my broadband via VDSL, should OR pull the plug on Voice over Copper before I am connected (if ever) to FTTP, what will BT do with our allocated phone number?

Do I have to jump the gun and port our phone number to a VoIP provider and then connect either a VoIP adaptor into my router, or will BT be providing an adaptor, with our existing number for the same purpose?

Should FTTP become available here before the switch off date, whilst I still have BT's voice service, I can at least port my phone number to a VoIP provider and cancel my BT service since FTTP will be supplied by Andrews & Arnold.

I think!

I believe your questions will be answered before 2025, there are a few years to go. Ofcom likes the fact that you can have broadband and telephone services from different people, so I assume the regulator will ensure this can remain.

Others have answered .

It'll be a long time before FTTC and G.Fast are wound down.

There's a huge amount of expensive kit in exchanges that is required by PSTN, and not only that but their fibre services more often than not come from a headend exchange elsewhere. Relatively few exchanges "providing" FTTC actually have the fibre terminations in them.

So it isn't just the phone kit with its maintenance and repairs could go, but the whole exchange with its considerable overheads. Building, heating, lighting, insurance, general upkeep and I expect rates. A nice plot of land to sell to developers in most cases,

We sometimes see exchange photographs on these forums of small exchanges miles from any major populated area. Even the travel cost (vehicular and man-time) to a phone fault is out of proportion to the revenue. Given that the copper line itself still attracts rental income if there is FTTC/xDSL.

Don't forget that A & A already have a highly regarded VOIP product Clive. AIUI you could switch to it now with your existing number.

Though I wouldn't recommend it. It's nice to know your phone may still work if your broadband goes down.

Edited by RobertoS (Sun 20-Dec-20 20:32:38)

In reply to a post by Ancient_Mariner:

Do I have to jump the gun and port our phone number to a VoIP provider and then connect either a VoIP adaptor into my router, or will BT be providing an adaptor, with our existing number for the same purpose?

There will be no POTS and i can't see BT selling/running a VOIP service over another providers broadband.

If by BT you mean OpenReach then no they won't be providing any special adapters.
OpenReach don't want to handle the voice part which is why they scrapped ONT's with ATA (telephone) ports.

I can't see anything changing with the current plans.
VOIP and broadband via a single hub will be what the majority who want a landline will take.

It will be up to you the customer to either buy a bundled broadband and VOIP service, or a separate broadband and separate VOIP service.

should OR pull the plug on Voice over Copper before I am connected (if ever) to FTTP, what will BT do with our allocated phone number?

It will make little difference whether FTTP has reached you yet or not.

On both FTTP and FTTC it will be up to you to buy a bundled broadband/VOIP service, or separate services.

That's going to be the case for the majority.

For the few FTTP users with a 4 port ONT, they could order a dedicated VOIP service on a dedicated port on the ONT.
OpenReach sell? or will sell a very low bandwidth FTTP service intended for VOIP only.
Some people on FTTP with a single port ONT will be able to order a 2nd ONT, but CBT port and splitter capacity means this won't be an option for most.

In short, for you...

when the time comes you can take your landline number to your current ISP via VOIP, use a 3rd party VOIP provider or migrate to a bundled service from another provider.

Your current voice provider BT will definitely be selling Voice only services (VOIP) but they may only choose to do this via the low bandwidth OpenReach product described above.
That would require a 2nd pair, 2nd ONT or 4 port ONT, if you are keeping the AAISP line.

IMO none of the current big POTS landline providers will offer VOIP over someone else's broadband and well leave that to dedicated VOIP providers.