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Standard User Pheasant
(committed) Sat 30-Jan-21 16:10:22
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Re: Openreach Community FTTP Query


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There is one possibility.

Perhaps the RA had a decent bank balance and at meeting (SGM, EGM) with all residents agreed to put up the funds needed on the basis that anyone taking up service would pay a specified amount. And if something like that happened, there would be formal minutes. But then could they be applied to new residents? Possibly.

Gosh the OP should’ve let on he lives on Kensington Palace Gardens! wink

Heck if they’re anything like my road management company, there’s barely enough cash in the bank to cover pothole repair let alone a full blown CFP deployment.

Seriously something like that would turn up on a conveyancers searches. I’ve still got all my stuff, accounts and CH declarations. If it’s kosher it will be available to all members of the RA.

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Standard User Whitehall11
(learned) Sat 30-Jan-21 16:15:57
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All this talk of extra money that has no legal obligation is getting my hot...

I think with my CFP i'll get ready to survey the other 70 houses who don't contribute to the CFP (who will be given FTTP as a result), and bill them when i see the FTTP lines being connected!

Should make me a nice few pennys! (Sarcasm)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Jan-21 16:21:07
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All this talk of extra money that has no legal obligation is getting my hot...

I think with my CFP i'll get ready to survey the other 70 houses who don't contribute to the CFP (who will be given FTTP as a result), and bill them when i see the FTTP lines being connected!

Should make me a nice few pennys! (Sarcasm)
Just paint a large cross on their front doors so everyone knows who didn't pay wink


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Standard User Pheasant
(committed) Sat 30-Jan-21 16:31:31
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Re: Openreach Community FTTP Query


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In reply to a post by Whitehall11:
All this talk of extra money that has no legal obligation is getting my hot...

I think with my CFP i'll get ready to survey the other 70 houses who don't contribute to the CFP (who will be given FTTP as a result), and bill them when i see the FTTP lines being connected!

Should make me a nice few pennys! (Sarcasm)

Hey look no one is holding a gun to your head to do this and you should not in turn hold a gun other folks head's either (metaphorically).

If you're socialising the cost of (what will be publicly accessible) infrastructure, be prepared fo the upside as well as the downside.

If you think your building some fee paying private members network, then you're in for an unfortunate surprise.

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 30-Jan-21 16:37:40
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Your suggestion would result in a small clique of like-minded neighbours in a community scheme holding veto powers over residents being connected to infrastructure that had *already been paid for* for up to a decade after it is completed.
Some sort of an appeal system could well be needed.

There is nothing wrong with the current scheme - if members of a CFP scheme do not like the idea of properties being enabled that aren't contributing then they don't have to sign the contract with Openreach.
So then fewer people may want to join such schemes which makes it even more difficult for them to get started.

Michael Chare
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Jan-21 17:08:31
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Some sort of an appeal system could well be needed.
Let us all know how you get on when you present that idea to Openreach.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Jan-21 17:09:13
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j0hn83 - there is no need for you to be rude.

It seems you didn't read what I wrote. I said nothing at all about contributions.

Anyway, enough time wasted on this, which has gone WAY off topic.
Standard User bob_lucas
(learned) Sat 30-Jan-21 17:18:37
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I am sure many of the previous contributors have offered good advice. The fact remains that none of us has seen any of the documentation.

Your solicitor should have investigated all relevant matters, including your rights of access over the unadopted road, who pays for maintenance of the road, and the nature of your relationship with the residents' association. We don't even know whether the Association is an informal body or a legally constituted company. If it is a company, do all of the residents own shares, or is the company limited by guarantee? Is your property freehold or leasehold? If it is leasehold, who owns the freehold?

I suspect that the Residents' Association has no right to require you to pay anything. However, these are legal questions, so you really should seek advice from the solicitor that acted for you, when you purchased the property.
Standard User jpm
(member) Sat 30-Jan-21 17:32:02
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So then fewer people may want to join such schemes which makes it even more difficult for them to get started.

If Openreach have to readjust their projections based on the worst case scenario of seeing no income from 30% of a CFP until 10 years into the future due to difficult resident groups then it will just push the prices of these schemes up.
Standard User Fastman3
(member) Sat 30-Jan-21 17:33:09
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michael chare - riduculos comment as ever

crealy no idea idea how CFP works, is funded
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