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4 metres? I doubt it - if they were digging out and laying at that depth very specialised plant would be needed.

Maybe a decimal point missing. 0.4m is more likely, even that would be good going.

The one I asked said 4metre, and then he shouted at the bloke on the JCB thing, and he came back with 400, 400 what?
400cm would be 4 metres, 400mm would be 40cm, but surely that would not be deep enough.

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They won't be burying anything 4m down. The only thing 4m deep is a typical BT manhole which they may be using. The ducts between manholes are usually pretty deep, commonly over a metre in order to keep the big cables out of harms way.

The new guys are building very shoddily. Tubes are unprotected, very shallow and vulnerable to damage.

I stumbled across a typical Virgin Lightning build here at around 50mm. These tubes will be cut by anyone with an angle grinder lifting the asphalt

https://www.flickr.com/photos/curlycom/50342683387/

The exchange is not far from where they are, and I presume there are a lot of BT cables to go down there, but surely they would use ducts already there, so no need to dig?

I presume they know what they are doing after all they have done this in another town.

I would love to know more, but I really don't want to trouble them.


Hit that fibre hard enough with that spade and I expect it would break.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

The person I spoke to said the fibre is buried 4 meters down,

Really ? Sounds like twaddle to me. Buried so deep two average people stood on each other’s shoulders wouldn’t appear out of the trench ???? It seems ridiculous.

I thought it was a bit deep and to be honest the trench I saw the day before did not look anywhere near deep enough, see my posts above

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In reply to a post by Pheasant:

In reply to a post by MHC:

4 metres? I doubt it - if they were digging out and laying at that depth very specialised plant would be needed.

Maybe a decimal point missing. 0.4m is more likely, even that would be good going.

The one I asked said 4metre, and then he shouted at the bloke on the JCB thing, and he came back with 400, 400 what?
400cm would be 4 metres, 400mm would be 40cm, but surely that would not be deep enough.

400mm on a pavement sounds right, certainly for Openreach if not ZZoom

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Maybe a decimal point missing. 0.4m is more likely, even that would be good going.

The one I asked said 4metre, and then he shouted at the bloke on the JCB thing, and he came back with 400, 400 what?
400cm would be 4 metres, 400mm would be 40cm, but surely that would not be deep enough.

400mm on a pavement sounds right, certainly for Openreach if not ZZoom

Slightly shallower. See the Street works guidelines page 10.

http://streetworks.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11...

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Slightly shallower. See the Street works guidelines page 10.

http://streetworks.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11...

Thanks for the link

No worries. It’s a handy reference. At least that’s where the gear is supposed to be

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400mm on a pavement sounds right, certainly for Openreach if not ZZoom

Looking at some videos on you Tube about Zzoomm, it looks about 400mm.

I have been looking at some reviews, while Zzoomm is only in one town at the moment, most of the reviews are good. Some complain about the routers that are used, to be honest I have never heard of an Adtran SmartRG 400.
We will see what happens, even if by some miracle it does come here in six months, I will still be in contract with plusnet until January next year, according to the email I had when I started this contract, the price will rise to £35.98 a month, from the £23 I am paying now. We will see what Plusnet can offer me when the time comes, but I will certainly not be paying £35.98. 12 months is a long time, even if it doesn't seem like it and anything can happen, I may not even be living here then.

I do not really need the speed, which is why I will see if Plusnet can do a better deal when the time comes. but saying all of that, I am still interested in the technology and how it is done and for households that have a few people in, I am sure fibre will be good for them.

I think Bt is also going to put Fibre in around here at some point.