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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 12-Feb-21 08:30:04
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Re: FTTPoD Desk vs Field Pricing


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Wasn't that when Openreach changed the pricing structure and the minimum contract term changed from 36 months to 12 months?


No - the spreadsheet only shows costs under the new pricing scheme, introduced in March 2018.

Prior to that, FTTPoD prices were fixed in "bands" depending on how far you were from the fibre aggregation node, plus a fixed hefty premium on the first 36 months rental. It was possible for ECCs to be raised (and for the customer to drop out of the order without penalty if they were), but in practice this almost never happened.

The free "desktop estimates" followed by post-survey confirmed pricing (for which you had to pay £250+VAT if you dropped out) are part of the new model only.

Also under the new model, if the CBT/Manifold is placed to serve multiple properties, then they all get FTTP available to order. Under the old model, only the specific property which ordered FTTPoD got it.
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Fri 12-Feb-21 12:17:06
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Re: FTTPoD Desk vs Field Pricing


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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
If you read that spreadsheet in detail you will see something seemed to change with the full quotes in early 2019.
In 2018 there was lots of £2k, £3k, £4k build costs.

Wasn't that when Openreach changed the pricing structure and the minimum contract term changed from 36 months to 12 months?


As pointed out above all the quotes in the spreadsheet are under the current pricing model.

There was a very noticeable increase in the quotes at the beginning of 2019 with the £4k quote in Northern Ireland being the only exception to this

Every quote now seems to have £4-5k in either Labour costs, or Civil stores/civil labour costs, or both.
If that trend in quotes continues as it has for the last 2 years then it's sensible to warn potential buyers that their final quote is likely to be at least £7-8k.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 12-Feb-21 19:41:36
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Just had a thought, as the properties passed is 7, I was going to see if my neighbours were interested and if so potentially they could help fund it.

But how do I know which premises it passes, due to my location I have houses spread around me on all but one side so I wouldn't even know who to ask.


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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 12-Feb-21 23:26:54
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In reply to a post by martynp1:
Just had a thought, as the properties passed is 7, I was going to see if my neighbours were interested and if so potentially they could help fund it.

But how do I know which premises it passes, due to my location I have houses spread around me on all but one side so I wouldn't even know who to ask.


You ought to get the list of properties as part of the survey - and from the survey result you will have 30 days to accept the survey and pay, or to drop out and lose the £250+VAT.

If there are 7 properties served by the same pole or by the same footway box, it will most likely be those.

Note that the "properties passed" in the desktop survey may be wrong anyway; I was told 12 in my desktop survey, but it ended up being 3.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 13-Feb-21 00:35:48
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Cheers for the clarity.

Just got to wait it out now, I think they said anywhere from 4+ weeks for the survey to be complete.
Standard User Pheasant
(committed) Sat 13-Feb-21 06:53:15
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I just revisited my surveyed quote and I had a discount of £850 for premises passed. Which I understood at the time was £700 for my property and £150 for other premises passed @ £50 per property.

All my final quote correspondence was headed up from Cerberus and/or email from Bob Hendy with cost breakdown. I couldn’t see the actual addresses of the properties passed listed on any of that correspondence, but it was fairly easy to work out whom they were given what was served from the pole mounted CBT serving us.

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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 13-Feb-21 10:34:22
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All my final quote correspondence was headed up from Cerberus and/or email from Bob Hendy with cost breakdown. I couldn’t see the actual addresses of the properties passed listed on any of that correspondence


Ah yes, I remember now - I had to ask which ones they were.
Standard User Cabinet13
(newbie) Mon 15-Feb-21 16:44:36
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My Desktop survey also came in at £5200 but with 5 premises past. I had the actual survey carried out last week so it will be interesting to see how our final prices differ as the desktop survey prices were the same. I will post the final price here when I get it.
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(deleted) Mon 15-Feb-21 21:27:58
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Exciting times!

How long did it take from when you ordered the field survey to it being carried out?
Standard User Cabinet13
(newbie) Tue 16-Feb-21 11:07:06
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The field survey was ordered on 9th November and carried on 10th February. This long delay was neither the fault of Cerberus or Openreach; we were waiting for a neighbour who had expressed an interest in joining a linked order to register, eventually I told Cerberus to proceed as a single order. Once they had given the order to Openreach it took less than a week to carry out the survey.
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