Your spreadsheet is a great piece of data gathering that I'm sure has helped lots of folks!

It did however occur to me that it doesn't take into account any GBVS or other council or vouchers /grants etc that offset the final cost paid. This of course is somewhat confidential, but has a bearing I guess.

I know this might be an obvious answer. But I'm not 100% sure so I'll ask it.

I had requested a FTTPod quote in March 2019. If I was to ask for a quote this March would it come out as the same price?

My final price was £8,935 + VAT.

It was out of my price range. But it's a shame that OR don't produce a distant roadmap that said when areas were going to be done, at least in the next 12 months. Then if a persons area isn't on the list then that £8,935 for me would become more attractive to pay.

As it stands today I've no idea when OR (or anyone else) will get around to bringing FTTP here. If I knew they wouldn't be bringing it here for 2 or 3 years then I'd be willing to pay the £8,935.

Edited by bowdon (Fri 19-Feb-21 13:40:47)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

It did however occur to me that it doesn't take into account any GBVS or other council or vouchers /grants etc that offset the final cost paid.

This is true, but I didn't think it was really relevant to capture whether the user decided to proceed with the installation or not, and if they did, how they paid the bill. That's down to their personal circumstances.

Eligibility for vouchers depends on several things: not just the location, but also whether the end user is residential or business, and what schemes were available at the time.

Little bit of an update, OR Engineer called me today because he was in the area on his way home and thought he'd come take a quick look before he does the Survey on Monday. He was really helpful and he told me from the back of my property it's was just armoured copper cable underground for around 250m across a field to the nearest pole. From there he had no idea and needed to go take a look.

Was a really nice guy, very surprised how fast it was from when I ordered to when the survey is going to be done.

No idea about the Aggregation node yet as he said he wasn't from the area so he would take a proper look on Monday.

In reply to a post by martynp1:

it's was just armoured copper cable underground for around 250m across a field to the nearest pole.

So just that is going to be 250m of new ducting or about 5 new poles

Edited by deleted (Fri 19-Feb-21 14:47:31)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Your spreadsheet is a great piece of data gathering that I'm sure has helped lots of folks!

It did however occur to me that it doesn't take into account any GBVS or other council or vouchers /grants etc that offset the final cost paid. This of course is somewhat confidential, but has a bearing I guess.

How does this have a bearing though?
The surveyor doesn't up the cost to offset the vouchers.
At that point surely OpenReach have no idea a voucher is even being claimed?

If it's across a field, the owner (unless it is the poster) may not be very keen on 5 poles spanning it!

But getting a quote to self-dig the section across the field is likely to bring down the cost substantially.

In reply to a post by shortshrift27:

If it's across a field, the owner (unless it is the poster) may not be very keen on 5 poles spanning it!

But getting a quote to self-dig the section across the field is likely to bring down the cost substantially.

Totally agree but thats a conversation for him with the land owner, a Ditch Witch C24X would easily trench that in a morning and weekend hire would be around £300 + petrol

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Your spreadsheet is a great piece of data gathering that I'm sure has helped lots of folks!

It did however occur to me that it doesn't take into account any GBVS or other council or vouchers /grants etc that offset the final cost paid. This of course is somewhat confidential, but has a bearing I guess.

How does this have a bearing though?
The surveyor doesn't up the cost to offset the vouchers.
At that point surely OpenReach have no idea a voucher is even being claimed?

The bearing it has the is the customers financial decision to proceed or otherwise is based on the total (net) cost, which would include knowledge of the any voucher or grant deductions.

I would argue this drives or has a material impact on the aggregate level of acceptance. So if say net costs increase on average by say 30% would you expect demand to stay the same, increase or decrease?

I think see what you mean.

You want to include if a voucher was claimed or not to see if it had any bearing on those that proceeded with their order vs those that didn't, rather than if it had a direct impact on the actual quotes.

It would definitely be good additional info but it would need the spreadsheet to show which users actually went ahead with their order and which users cancelled after receiving the full survey quote.
Unless I'm reading it wrong that info isn't currently shown on the spreadsheet.