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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 07-Mar-21 22:07:15
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Re: New house, not on roll out


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In reply to a post by crdrummond:
Ah ok. I’m not sure I know what XHR is but it sounds promising.


It's the JSON response from the availability checker API; it returns some extra data that isn't displayed in the web page.

In reply to a post by crdrummond:
How can I check/ensure we are also being included in the plans do you know?
If it turns out that we are, last thing I want to do is place an order for FTTC (which is my only option right know, though I know it is terrible) and then be stuck in a contract for 12-24 months.


There are ISPs that will do you FTTC on a 1 month term. TBH, even 12 months from a cheap FTTC provider is peanuts in the scale of house purchase.

The fact that the API response returns "in scope" is no guarantee that FTTP will be provided now or in the near future. The only certainty is when the CBT is in place and your property is marked as accepting orders.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 07-Mar-21 22:11:00
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The fact that the API response returns "in scope" is no guarantee that FTTP will be provided now or in the near future. The only certainty is when the CBT is in place and your property is marked as accepting orders.
Good point, I should have stated that when I said it was showing as 'In Scope'
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 07-Mar-21 22:14:52
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Ah that’s helpful additional info, thank you.
Hopefully anyone out that who might have some insider knowledge might see this post and be able to assist further - fingers crossed!


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Standard User Woolwich
(experienced) Mon 08-Mar-21 07:50:15
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
It's the JSON response from the availability checker API; it returns some extra data that isn't displayed in the web page.


I've seen this mentioned before but my attempts to look in the webpage code flopped. Howzit dun? Bonus kudos for safari instructions smile
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 08-Mar-21 08:06:48
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
It's the JSON response from the availability checker API; it returns some extra data that isn't displayed in the web page.


I've seen this mentioned before but my attempts to look in the webpage code flopped. Howzit dun? Bonus kudos for safari instructions smile


In Chrome, navigate to https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fibre-firs... but don't do the check yet. Go to (three dots menu) > More Tools > Developer Tools and ensure the Network tab is selected. Then do the availability check. You'll see a bunch of separate HTTP exchanges between the web browser and the server.

Scroll until you find the one which says

/linecheckerrequest?token=...
/services

Click on it. Then to the right, select the "Response" tab, which shows some JSON:

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{"status":{"successful":true,"description":"single"},"content":[{"fttp":"available","gfast":"not in scope","fttc":"available","nadkey":"...etc"}]}


I don't know whether corresponding functionality exists in Safari.
Standard User Fastman3
(member) Mon 08-Mar-21 08:30:13
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developer has not done the right thing or chosn to do the cheapest thing hoping some else sorts it out ,. Openreach and BDUK has done exactly what they should have done -- - small development like this where they do only the minimum or dont follow the proper process are appearing all the time -- very prevalent where FTTPP roll out is done and then people build afterwards develop afterwards - i mentioned the FMOP has they might contact the developer
Standard User Woolwich
(experienced) Mon 08-Mar-21 10:39:02
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
I don't know whether corresponding functionality exists in Safari.

Yes, by enabling the Develop menu in Preferences then showing the code (command-option-u). There's a Network tab as described. I did a check and sorted the Name column to find linecheckerrequest. There are two, one appears to be the drop down list of addresses at the postcode, the other my address. My result (with some details removed for paranoia).

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{
    "status": {        "successful": true,
        "description": "single"    },
    "content": [        {
            "fttp": "not in scope",            "gfast": "not in scope",
            "fttc": "available",            "nadkey": " removed",
            "uprn": "",            "name": "Glasgow Halfway",
            "cabinetNumber": "20",            "speed": "69.62",
            "sauid": "WSHAL",            "lat": "removed",
            "lng": "removed",            "address": "Glasgow, United Kingdom",
            "premisesType": "",            "postcode": "removed"
        }    ]
}


There are a couple of questions for me in this but I won't hijack this thread. Thanks!
Standard User djb61
(newbie) Mon 08-Mar-21 11:27:31
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It isn't necessary to look at the XHR, this response is reflected in the wording on the page.

If fttp returns "in scope" the text on the page above the contact form will say
"We're starting to build our ultra-fast, ultra-reliable Full Fibre broadband in your area."

If fttp returns "not in scope" then the wording will say
"At the moment, we don't have any plans to upgrade your area to full fibre, but provide your contact details and we'll keep you up to date if things change - we add new locations into our build plan every three months."
Standard User witchunt
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 08-Mar-21 11:58:24
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I would expect it to be included.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 08-Mar-21 16:56:10
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Max speed of 8 mb/s...
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