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Post code YO61 4SL.
There has never been any message on OR that it was even pending and them suddenly it's here.

There is no FTTP in this post code above and still no plan. https://api.superfastmaps.co.uk/fibrecities/2.0/

That map completely ignores small deployments.
It only seems to show rollouts that cover the whole exchange area.

Going by that map I don't have FTTP. It says nobody on my exchange does.
That's very wrong indeed.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by agkq62:

Post code YO61 4SL.
There has never been any message on OR that it was even pending and them suddenly it's here.

There is no FTTP in this post code above and still no plan. https://api.superfastmaps.co.uk/fibrecities/2.0/

That map is only representative of the entire exchange area. There are individual post codes in areas that aren't yet planned for FTTP that already have FTTP.

His postcode YO61 4SL shows as available for certain addresses https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/... Yet the Superfast map will not show any plan at all.

Take a look at for example E1 7AP Crawford Building that's in the same area of the map as me in Bishopsgate Exchange Central London. It has FTTP available. Yet Superfast map will show "To be built by April 2025".

I will have to wait 3 years and 9 months approximately to get Openreach FTTP. But still there are no guarantees because if Openreach only achieve 75% coverage, there's still a risk that 25% of the area will be left out. There's a 25% chance that we won't get FTTP by that date. But then again, who knows, some might even get it earlier than predicted. It's more like a scheduled deadline.

For example I'm getting CommunityFibre altnet FTTP in a few months and a lot of buildings have Hyperoptic near me as well. That might prompt Openreach to try and build in my area earlier to try and stop the altnets from monopolizing.

That might prompt Openreach to try and build in my area earlier to try and stop the altnets from monopolising.

Or just say ‘why should we bother’ …

Yes post code is correct, it covers the whole village of about 30 houses ( drives delivery men mad).
It is definitely here as I have just ordered an install.
It has all been very sudden, I had registered an interest with OR many times but never had a single response .
Mind you there are couple with very high powered people who live on the edge of the village who are very friendly with the local MP.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by agkq62:

Post code YO61 4SL.
There has never been any message on OR that it was even pending and them suddenly it's here.

There is no FTTP in this post code above and still no plan. https://api.superfastmaps.co.uk/fibrecities/2.0/

That is more a macro level map as to when an exhange will be fully done and misses all the small scale deployment which make up a lot of FTTP, e.g. it misses BDUK roll outs which this is.

For North Yorkshire they have a map that shows down to the property level when they are getting FTTP via BDUK (near everything listed from phase 3 is FTTP and all after it are FTTP).

http://superfastnorthyorkshire.com/post-code-checker/

That Hamlet is all listed as going live before end of 2021 so is on target.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

That might prompt Openreach to try and build in my area earlier to try and stop the altnets from monopolising.

Or just say ‘why should we bother’ …

When there is a case of pecuniary interest for Openreach, they will indeed bother!

My observation is that Openreach tend to build in areas or at least have plans in those areas that already have Altnets. But areas that have zero altnet availability and zero FTTC are completely left behind!

We hear these stories in ISPreview and also on these forums. This I have observed even in post codes of old builds.

We all know that if the Altnets didn't ramp up their FTTP deployment, Openreach would've been more inclined in building an FTTP network.

Because now they see this as threat to customers leaving FTTC behind and switching to their new FTTP provider. This competition perhaps was the only way to force Openreach to take an initiative in announcing 25 million by 2026.

FTTC will pretty much be dead by the time Altnets covered an area to 100%. The only choice Openreach have to fight back and regain their customers is to now build their FTTP network. If they don't bother that will be their problem and their loss! Because now if I leave to join CommunityFibre soon and I end up being happy the chance of me returning back to FTTC will be very low unless the price was significantly cheaper than my new FTTP provider.

Openreach know this perfectly well and this is why I believe they will build FTTP to try and regain customers like myself back. Whereas before this wasn't the case. Openreach could simply milk more cash with FTTC/ADSL and not invest, they don't have the luxury of doing that anymore.

In reply to a post by dogcat:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by agkq62:

Post code YO61 4SL.
There has never been any message on OR that it was even pending and them suddenly it's here.

There is no FTTP in this post code above and still no plan. https://api.superfastmaps.co.uk/fibrecities/2.0/

That is more a macro level map as to when an exhange will be fully done and misses all the small scale deployment which make up a lot of FTTP, e.g. it misses BDUK roll outs which this is.

For North Yorkshire they have a map that shows down to the property level when they are getting FTTP via BDUK (near everything listed from phase 3 is FTTP and all after it are FTTP).

http://superfastnorthyorkshire.com/post-code-checker/

That Hamlet is all listed as going live before end of 2021 so is on target.

I live in a village a similar size in North Yorkshire and magic does happen, we went live late last year.

PS: I do a lot of work round Ampleforth and surrounding areas, yes it is remote around there.

Enjoy it when it finally arrives.

In reply to a post by busterboy:

I live in a village a similar size in North Yorkshire and magic does happen, we went live late last year.

Its not so much magic, more a well managed BDUK program combined with high take-up meaning they get the cash clawed back, hence why they are now looking at getting everywhere outside the towns FTTP; Phase 3 which is near complete was to get it to all easiest to reach rural properties that were 30mbps and below. I expect its the level of take up which is one of the main reasons why there are so many Openreach competitors focusing on North Yorkshire.

Edited by deleted (Tue 13-Jul-21 08:47:01)