Is Zzoomm a ISP?

I am in a discussion with someone on Facebook who say that Zzoomm is not an ISP, but a reseller, i thought they would be a ISP as they are installing their own fibre and surly they provide the service as well.
Here is what he put,

zoom are not tier 1 so are a reseller they don’t have an ASN number meaning they can’t route BGP which means technically they’re not an ISP they will be using someone else’s ASN eg Vodafone/ Level 3 / BT Wholesale

What is a ASN number and BGP?


Cheers.

They have an ASN of AS35433 according to ipinfo

Can’t see them listed on peeringDB though.

You can read up on ASNs (and BGP) here:
https://blog.stackpath.com/autonomous-system-number/

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

What is a ASN number and BGP?

Autonomous System Number and Border Gateway Protocol. They're how you create an interconnected network of networks. (aka the "internet").

Here is their RIPE database entry, in case your Facebook friend has lingering doubts.

They are a ‘legit’ alternative network ISP, by whatever definition you wish to draw.

That Facebook guy hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

An ASN (Autonomous System Number, so same thing as 'PIN numbers') doesn't mean someone is a tier 1.

The tier 1s are small set of ISPs that are basically the 'backbone' of the Internet. They are the transit providers that provide connectivity to others that don't interconnect themselves and are the companies people pay to connect and connect for free between themselves only on the whole.

BGP is a routing protocol used between Autonomous Systems on the Internet to allow exchange of traffic. ISPs have ASNs / Autonomous System Numbers registered with regional registrars then a worldwide one.

ZZoomm have an ASN. They pay Xifos Ltd for connectivity and Xifos in turn connect to the rest of the Internet.

To repeat this guy hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

Cheers peeps, i understand now, what they are, well kind of, I had a look at some websites that explained it a little and from the explanations on here.
@Pheasant, he is not my facebook pal , just someone on the Zzoomm group.
I will copy and paste some of this stuff onto it, but not the bit about him not knowing what he is on about

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I will copy and paste some of this stuff onto it, but not the bit about him not knowing what he is on about

Such is our gravitas…that if you search for “Zzoomm ASN” this thread comes in at number 3 and if you search “Zzoomm ISP” then the thread is fourth in the Google rankings.

So yeah he’ll probably spot it at some point….🤣

Zzoomm was founded by Mathew Hare, who started Gigaclear and is an FTTP ISP..

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Such is our gravitas…that if you search for “Zzoomm ASN” this thread comes in at number 3 and if you search “Zzoomm ISP” then the thread is fourth in the Google rankings.

So yeah he’ll probably spot it at some point….🤣

LOL, He may do, that is if he does a search, he has not come back to me yet.

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Zzoomm was founded by Mathew Hare, who started Gigaclear and is an FTTP ISP..
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I know who founded it, One reason why I am not sure if I want to change over, Zzoomm when it gets here. He seems to be someone who starts a company and then flogs it.
Knowing my luck, I will go on it and in 12 months he will flog it to Talk Talk.

There are other reasons why I am not sure if I want to bother. One of them is the hassle, another is do I really need that speed and another is price, I get a good deal from Plusnet at the moment, if they keep the deal then I see no reason to move.
I am not bothered if it is classed as a ISP or not, saying that they had a[url="https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/06/zzoomm-apologise-for-disruption-in-oxfordshire-uk-after-ddos.html"]DDOS attack in Henley-on-Thames