Customers of the AltNet's need to learn the risks of the USA, when there is only one (viable) ISP in a town, they can charge what they like. The regulated wholesale market (e.g. Openreach) has in general been a good thing for the UK.

Sage words.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

To be fair any of the AltNet providers could go bust or (more likely) get subsumed by a larger provider or another AltNet. Consolidation will happen at some point in time - probably when interest rates shift or investors get nervy.

There is lots of investment capital awash at the moment, so for now the FTTP ‘gold rush / merry go round’ continues!

Yes, you are right, even the larger providers can be grabbed, like BT grabbed hold of plusnet, but to be honest, plusnet is better for it.

He came back to with
Zen BT TalkTalk Vodafone Sky all have ASN numbers ZOOOOM don’t so must interconnect to one that does

I don't know why it matters so much to him anyway.

In reply to a post by jpm:

The best thing you can probably do for your own sanity is to not bother getting into debates with people you don't care about on Facebook groups

LOL, It is just he puts other people off and he thinks that Openreach is going to cover the whole of Hereford with fibre soon, and they are not, i think it will be a couple of years if not more when Openreach starts. There is one road I think that have open reach FTTP and I have no idea why only that road.
By all accounts, Zzoomm is close to taking orders for their first customers, but not up here until at leats next year.

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

Probably not a good idea. I got the vibe you weren't friendly with them so went in with both feet.

I'll clarify any more questions if I see them before they're answered.

I am badly triggered by Dunning-Kruger types so glad to slap them down. I'm as guilty of it in the past as anyone.

I did not start it off, he came up on the page with Don’t worry Openreach are already at it and it’ll be much cheaper seen them laying fibre all over aylestone hill area and tupsley.
As far as i know, that is not correct, i have not see anything about it.

someone else cam back with does that mean they Zoom uses BT equipment and he came back with

no they rip you off instead sky high prices and [censored] oversubscribed service BT are legally a proper ISP Soom are not as they don’t have ASN numbers they’re technically not TIER 1 more so a reseller


so i just asked what he meant of them not being a ISP since they are doing their own network.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Anyhow, the springs of the fibre internet bandwagon must surely be sagging.

Yes, I forsee some stopping when they run out of cash, before the assets are picked up by another operator. Hopefully eventually either Openreach or CityFibre will acquire and provide wholesale access.

Customers of the AltNet's need to learn the risks of the USA, when there is only one (viable) ISP in a town, they can charge what they like. The regulated wholesale market (e.g. Openreach) has in general been a good thing for the UK.

...or the business case(s) take a battering! There's already grumbles from the AltNets, about forthcoming FTTP wholesale price cuts as proposed by OR and currently being 'blessed' by Ofcom:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/08/ofcom-...

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

He came back to with
Zen BT TalkTalk Vodafone Sky all have ASN numbers ZOOOOM don’t so must interconnect to one that does

I don't know why it matters so much to him anyway.

https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=rip...

organisation: ORG-ZP18-RIPE
org-name: Zzoomm plc

https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query?bflag=false...

aut-num: AS35433
as-name: Zzoomm
org: ORG-ZP18-RIPE