In reply to a post by j0hn83:

So it seems.
I initially read that as he had changed the ONT.

Would be interested to hear from APTMAN if he does indeed have a Nokia ONT.

It can definitely be done on GPON.
Like I said it doesn't work automatically with OpenReach's setup.

Sorry J0hn83 wasn't doubting what you said, I thought the same until I reread it and like you said would be good to hear from APTMAN

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

I'm a bit surprised nobody picked up on APTMANs original comments about the Nokia ONT.
If I had read his post correctly the 1st time round I would have commented that it's the 1st we've seen this happen.

Like most folks, I too blithely read it as the engineer changed the Nokia ONT out for a Huawei, not as APTMAN has written it; suggesting it was a remote configuration update/change and the Nokia ONT was kept.

If so, not only is that a new thing, but also suggests that it would be possible for the 4-port Nokia, when its eventually arrives on the scene to be used in both Nokia and Huawei OLT estates. Would OR then bother with a 4-port Huawei ONT

I have a Nokia G-010G-Q 1x port ONT in which was Configured to work with the Huawei Exchange OLT.
It took a few minutes to re-configure it to work.

The cowboy installer had his phone on loud speaker and I could hear the the BT Openreach chap was not too happy that the installer had fitted the wrong one.


Why I do not want a CSP inside my equipment cupboard it's taken the space I left for my VOIP ATA box

The 4 port Huawei is obsolete and not provided just because a CP asked for one for any reason let alone because the customer plans on ordering a second service.

There may still be a few knocking around for specific instances such as my own however where there are CBT ports available and no second service has been ordered Openreach aren't going to go to senior management level to find one.

There's also the small matter that Openreach ONTs have a 1 Gb limit across all ports combined - the 4 gigabit ports share a single gigabit link to the optical side.

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

I have a Nokia G-010G-Q 1x port ONT in which was Configured to work with the Huawei Exchange OLT.
It took a few minutes to re-configure it to work.

The cowboy installer had his phone on loud speaker and I could hear the the BT Openreach chap was not too happy that the installer had fitted the wrong one.


Why I do not want a CSP inside my equipment cupboard it's taken the space I left for my VOIP ATA box

Consider yourself in two exclusive clubs - NOHO (Nokia ONT + Huawei OLT) plus Exterior CSP Fitted Internally - ECFI.

Catchy huh 😉🤣

Regarding the CSP, perhaps an internal white InvisiLight CSP may be smaller and white coloured so less industrial, but as your duct exit point is internal, there was logically going to have to be an internal CSP - did you not discuss and agree the location of the kit before with him?

Will we start to see HONO (Huawei ONT + Nokia OLT) as well or is this the start of phasing out new installs of Huawei ONT's?

Expecting to see ECI ONTs and Nokia / ADTRAN OLTs for sure. Not sure there's too much point in Huawei ONTs going into Nokia / ADTRAN areas.

What's the scale of the ECI based OLT estate? I thought it was relatively minor.

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

In reply to a post by Taras:

True, or when you had the 4 port version you just nab a second fibre from the csp.

No you only have ONE fibre and by magic and flashing lights and 'Time Division Multiplexing' it's all sent down ONE Fibre if you have more than one ISP service they change the ONT to a four port one (These are four Ethernet outputs), you do not need anymore 'drop' fibre lines

I have looked into this as I will need separate services for my self catering holiday flats (when I get them open).

Wouldn't you better off just upping your service to a 1000/115 and then sharing that across the holiday lets? Presumably you don't have dozens of apartments to service.

Would be loads cheaper than having separate connections to pay for.

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

There's also the small matter that Openreach ONTs have a 1 Gb limit across all ports combined - the 4 gigabit ports share a single gigabit link to the optical side.

I'll take your word for it Carl, I've never bothered looking into it. Dare say it would be a cheap(er) SoC approach to just "fudge" it and have a 1G optical/switch interconnect rather than at least a 2.5G optical/switch on board, even though the latter would be able to more fully access the full PON bandwidth across the ports.

By the way I have a completely off question regarding your MikroTik 2004 - wondered if you are running v6.48.3 (or the ilk) or v7 beta on it and whether you are seeing any unexplained increases in min/max ping/times - I seem to be suffering a weird condition on a 1072 that resulted in complete loss of service on one port, even though router thought it was OK seems to reoccur every 30 to 40 days. Just wondering if I have a faulty pluggable in there or if its router itself.