In reply to a post by branflakes:

Here's mine (the red is because the firewall was screwing with ICMP and I was redoing some of cabling in the rack) but it's working now. Still have the fringe packet loss however.

I've just set up an IPv6 address and a TBB BQM on it.

I have the same packet loss or a little less in SW16. Router is a Mikrotik CCR1009.

IPv4 is completely clean.

Is this the same for everyone, I wonder?

In reply to a post by ft247:

In reply to a post by branflakes:

Here's mine (the red is because the firewall was screwing with ICMP and I was redoing some of cabling in the rack) but it's working now. Still have the fringe packet loss however.

I've just set up an IPv6 address and a TBB BQM on it.

I have the same packet loss or a little less in SW16. Router is a Mikrotik CCR1009.

IPv4 is completely clean.

Is this the same for everyone, I wonder?

Yeah I think CFL is having bad routing issues on IPv6 because IPv4 is spotless.

*** Ignore the huge red blocks, I killed IPv6 LOL ***
Here are my 2 BQM's IPv6 BQM (MikroTik DDNS) - IPv4 BQM (OWN DDNS) as you can see IPv4 is clean and IPv6 has packet loss at the top.

Well they still haven't phoned back, and I am seeing packets over IPv6 not arriving and I am seeing TCP delays and resends happening.
So that needs to be resolved.

But yeah IPv6 has been like this from day one for me.

Paul

Btw, I have a question to ask, maybe it's not exactly related to this thread.

But is there any difference in performance for Community Fibre in areas with 3Gbps vs areas that have only 1Gbps in the lower speed packages?

I will get Community Fibre in a few months hopefully with 3Gbps max. My other property also has Community Fibre but has 1Gbps max as only option available.

So if you were to choose 1Gbps package in an area that has 3Gbps vs areas that don't have 3Gbps. Are the performances identical or will there be a difference, in speeds and latency? I asked support chat and all they say is that areas with 3Gbps have 10G-XGS PON and those that don't, don't have it.

If this is the case, does it impact performance even in the lower speed packages for those areas that don't have 3Gbps as an option vs those that have?

I wouldn't know our area only has up to 1Gbit Symmetrical Speeds, well the last time I checked.

But even if 3Gbit was in our area I would still go with the 1Gbit speeds due to some of our internal hardware would need to be upgraded and the price for the 3Gbit would be out of what we put aside for broadband.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

I wouldn't know our area only has up to 1Gbit Symmetrical Speeds, well the last time I checked.

But even if 3Gbit was in our area I would still go with the 1Gbit speeds due to some of our internal hardware would need to be upgraded and the price for the 3Gbit would be out of what we put aside for broadband.

Paul

Yeah, that I am fully aware. I know I also wouldn't be taking the 3Gbps even if it became available in my area.

I'm estimated to go live by December, but support can't tell me if it will be 3Gbps yet. Buildings next to me have 3Gbps as an option on 24 month contract, so I'm assuming I will get it too.

The thing I'm curious is whether those areas that are stuck on 1Gbps symmetrical only, have worse speed performance and latency vs 1Gbps in those areas that have 3Gbps as an option.

Maybe it won't show much differences. But if indeed 3Gbps has XGS-PON in such areas. This is something that has always been bugging my mind.

This leads me to believe that certain areas have only GPON even if it also does 1Gbps symmetrical. My concern is whether GPON would be more prone to crosstalk/contention with more customers signing up to a gigabit package versus those on XGS-PON yielding to reduced speeds over time.

In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

The thing I'm curious is whether those areas that are stuck on 1Gbps symmetrical only, have worse speed performance and latency vs 1Gbps in those areas that have 3Gbps as an option.

Maybe it won't show much differences. But if indeed 3Gbps has XGS-PON in such areas. This is something that has always been bugging my mind.

This leads me to believe that certain areas have only GPON even if it also does 1Gbps symmetrical. My concern is whether GPON would be more prone to crosstalk/contention with more customers signing up to a gigabit package versus those on XGS-PON yielding to reduced speeds over time.

If you take the 1Gb/s service in an area with XGS-PON available they may still give you a GPON ONT.

You would only need an XGS-PON ONT if you took the 3Gb/s service.
If a PON was looking busy they could move customers to XGS-PON, but imo that's unlikely to be an issue for the majority.

Perhaps someone with 3Gb/s available but who takes 1Gb/s could confirm.

Edit: confirmed below, everything built going forward is XGS-PON.

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 05-Aug-21 09:07:44)

My area is very recent expansion for CF, and borders an area that has 3Gbit available.

My area does not have 3Gbit for sale, which is the same situation as another new CF build area I'm aware of.

I have the 1Gbit service and an XGS-PON ONT.

To me, this means there is another reason for restricting 3Gbit sale - either commercial, or limited backhaul.

Apparently the CEO in this November article confirmed that only half the network was able to handle the 3 Gbps direct connections, despite all the new network being constructed as XGS-PON.

https://www.capacitymedia.com/articles/3826840/commu...

They close the article with; ‘The company is connected to two data centres in east London, Telehouse North and Equinix London LD8, and its network runs though 80 of its own cabinets as well as “a few BT exchanges”.’

Perhaps it’s indeed a backhaul limitation to those cabs and exchanges rather than the PON.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

How are you getting on with the service? Did you ever get to the bottom of the difference you saw with TBB single-thread DL performance vs multi-thread?

Well, I've got to the bottom of it - I need a better router.

I'm using an old Mikrotik CCR1009 which was removed from a customer due to damaged Ethernet ports. The SFP+ port works fine and is all I need, so sounds ideal.

Bypassing the router gets me 850+ single thread down on TBB. Using the router and cleaning up the firewall rules gets me to 380 single thread (TBB) and 550 single thread (Ookla).

Another issue is that when using the CCR1009 as an OpenVPN endpoint, throughput is <100Mbit. In general the Tilera processor models are not great at single thread tasks.

Now the question is what to replace it with!

I’m replacing mine with 2004’s. Much better VPN and single thread performance.