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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Aug-21 23:32:11
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Re: BT FTTP install without landlord's consent?


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... but I did end up having to bribe him with half of the cashback I'm getting.

This isn't your landlord is it - Mr Andrew "Cally Cows" Panayi 😎😂

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/26/land...
Standard User Harry9s
(newbie) Mon 16-Aug-21 23:32:51
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Good point about getting it in writing. While this landlord seems trustworthy, you never know. Otherwise, what's stopping him from turning around at the end of the tenancy and taking some of my deposit for damage relating to this?
Standard User Harry9s
(newbie) Mon 16-Aug-21 23:39:26
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This isn't your landlord is it - Mr Andrew "Cally Cows" Panayi 😎😂

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/26/land...

Fortunately not!!

What can I say? People tend to pay attention when you wave a bit of extra cash under their nose!
Shame, as I don't like to resort to doing things like that, but if it's what has to be done to get it sorted...


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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Aug-21 23:45:41
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Sounds like he got the kicker that he wanted all along. You get your broadband service - above board too.
Standard User Whitehall11
(member) Tue 17-Aug-21 08:32:21
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[re: Harry9s] [link to this post]
 
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Good point about getting it in writing. While this landlord seems trustworthy, you never know. Otherwise, what's stopping him from turning around at the end of the tenancy and taking some of my deposit for damage relating to this?


Just fire him over an email saying

'Hi, as per our conversation regarding FTTP broadband installation at X Property, can you confirm you're happy for me to proceed?'
Standard User Xuse
(regular) Tue 17-Aug-21 09:12:01
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I spoke to the landlord earlier and managed to get him to agree to the install, as long as he was there to supervise the drilling, but I did end up having to bribe him with half of the cashback I'm getting. Bit of a shame, but it will still be cheaper for me in the long run and I end up with 900mbps BT for less than the price of Virgin's 500mbps.

One of the things I mentioned to him was that even if I wanted a slower 36 or 62mbps service with BT, it would still have to be done over a new fibre line as they are phasing out their copper service, even on slower products. This renders the copper line useless unless I go with another Openreach-based ISP, although I didn't mention this possibility!


They're absolute scum. Next time don't tell them [censored] anything.
Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Tue 17-Aug-21 10:04:18
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https://www.foxwilliams.com/2012/11/05/telecommunica...

The Telecommunications Act 1984 contains the ‘Electronic Communications Code’ (“the Code”) which gives statutory protection and powers to telecoms operators which can override the proprietary rights of a property owner. If a landlord initially refuses to allow a telecoms connection to be made to your premises, the Code powers could be asserted by the relevant operator who is likely to be successful unless the landlord can show exceptional reason why the installation should be refused.
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 17-Aug-21 10:35:12
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Good luck with getting a service provider to use their code powers for a single broadband connection, if a landlord on private property has expressly not given their consent.
Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Tue 17-Aug-21 10:50:46
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Good luck with getting a service provider to use their code powers for a single broadband connection, if a landlord on private property has expressly not given their consent.


The closest I've come was when I lived in a flat above shops, the line didn't work and BT traced it to a fault in the shop, the shop wouldn't allow access and just as I started making a fuss, BT ran a fresh line from the exchange across the road rather than bother dealing with the shop. This was pre-VDSL so I was happy with the new line, although later not happy at having an EO line.

I own my house now, but in OP's situation, I'd have not told the LL, got my FTTP installed, and if they tried to argue about it at the end of the tenancy and deduct from deposit, disputed it on the basis the code allowed me to have telecoms installed.
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Aug-21 12:08:35
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but in OP's situation, I'd have not told the LL, got my FTTP installed, and if they tried to argue about it at the end of the tenancy and deduct from deposit, disputed it on the basis the code allowed me to have telecoms installed.


You would lose that dispute and lose your deposit.

Code powers don't allow YOU to do anything and telecoms companies don't use their code powers for installations on private property, especially where the property owner refused.

That's not what code powers are for.
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