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Standard User lmschuffer
(regular) Tue 07-Sep-21 12:57:43
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


[re: candlerb] [link to this post]
 
Thanks witchunt.

If exchanges are already being closed and copper uplifted they must already have had a PSTN closure ?.

For those there currently on ADSL, are they offered a reduced VDSL, perhaps 10/20 Mb, or are they forced to go the whole hog ?.

All going to be down to customer costs.

Lets not get into the ability to make 999 calls during a power outage.
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Tue 07-Sep-21 13:04:21
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


[re: lmschuffer] [link to this post]
 
There's been no PSTN closure yet.
Every single SOGEA line also needs to be connected to an E-Side.
Anywhere still selling ADSL (everywhere?) obviously still needs an E-Side.

Any E-Side copper recovery can only be done where an area is fully FTTP, has already had a stop sell on copper services and then had a forced migration to fibre.
Alternatively OpenReach need to stop using exchange based TAMS for FTTC line testing with ADSL being withdrawn.

I don't know anywhere that's happened yet so can't see how they can recover any E-Side copper until then.

I'd be interested to know where E-Side recovery is happening and what's special about that location that E-Sides aren't required.

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 07-Sep-21 13:15:04)

Standard User witchunt
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Sep-21 13:09:45
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


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Not aware of any E- side recovery taken place yet either


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Tue 07-Sep-21 13:25:55
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


[re: witchunt] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by witchunt:
Not aware of any E- side recovery taken place yet either


I didn't actually read your post, just the reply to your post.

In reply to a post by witchunt:
They can then start looking at exchange closures (already happening) and E side copper recovery ( already happening)
.

It makes sense that they are looking at where they can recover copper and close exchanges in the future.

PSTN and ADSL are the 2 largest obstacles in the way of that happening just yet.
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Wed 08-Sep-21 17:32:48
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


[re: lmschuffer] [link to this post]
 
Surely most people use Dect cordless phones so a power cut would affect them anyway.

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Standard User lmschuffer
(regular) Wed 08-Sep-21 19:19:19
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


[re: candlerb] [link to this post]
 
jOhn83, "where an area is fully FTTP"

Not sure I follow this, got to be FTTP first ?.

Why would a copper eside connection be needed to have VOIP on a FTTC connection ?.
There are a few exchanges already with a stop copper sales, so surely no new adsl sales available there either.

Another question might be.... what provision will there be for a voice only requirement order ?, going to need a VoIP adapter which would need to be battery backed to enable emergency calls ( have not found one as yet )

That question later will be the battery life in the cabinet as well as in the VoIP adapter.

broadband66, Perhaps we currently keep a pots plugged in in case of a power out, or at least keep one handy.
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 08-Sep-21 20:52:41
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Re: G.fast start to fade away


[re: broadband66] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by broadband66:
Surely most people use Dect cordless phones so a power cut would affect them anyway.

If you’re standing up the router (with a small UPS) then you may as well plug the DECT base too. Or use the mobile.
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