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Standard User Fastman3
(committed) Mon 15-Nov-21 10:42:35
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Re: OpenReach - Bad Management or Profiteering?


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zzing

no one in there right mind would do a CFP or something like it using a leased line its a recipe for distaster, one persons responsible, whos managing the traffic , how do you agree the bandwitch , what are they paying for an get



i can think of about 20 reasons why you would not use a leased line
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 15-Nov-21 11:22:20
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Re: OpenReach - Bad Management or Profiteering?


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In reply to a post by kitcat:
I would suggest that the cul-de-sac has had an FTTPoD installation with 1 12 port CBT provided
If it was a FTTPoD installation and OR had installed a 12 port CBT I would have expected only 10 properties enabled not 11 (as the OP says) to comply with the 120% capacity rule you have previously spoken about on here.

Edited by deleted (Mon 15-Nov-21 16:14:03)

Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 15-Nov-21 11:32:57
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Re: OpenReach - Bad Management or Profiteering?


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As I understand it, the 120% capacity rule is for splitters, not CBTs. And it's not always followed anyway.


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Standard User TechGuyUK
(regular) Mon 15-Nov-21 12:22:50
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Re: OpenReach - Bad Management or Profiteering?


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The idea of DIY sharing of a leased line bewteen neighbours is, like J0hn83 says, a non starter - for many reasons.

The apparent costing may look doable on paper, but it is a naïve, idealistic and simplistic argument.

Even if the equipment were cheap and readily available, which it will be to some people, the real problems with the idea are more basic:

First and foremost, Money - sharing the cost of anything between friends, family let alone neighbours causes friction - the "Well I didn't have any wine" after a meal is all too familiar.

Distribution - the actual sharing is going to rely on a wireless solution one way or another in reality for most properties and this will cause issues and add costs both in installation and support and most likely speed and reliability as well.

The "What if" factor - What if the host moves house, what if someone drops out, what if the host changes their mind about sharing, what if someone is doing illegal file sharing or being used to host a DDOS attack... the list is endless.

Local or community sharing of a service like this is just not the same as sharing within a household or an office environment.

They may not realise it, but end users actually like and need independence of support and a choice of provider, and like Electricity, Gas and Water - we simply don't go around sharing it with our neighbours like that.

Trust - who really wants to put their internet access in the hands of fred 3 doors down? Are they watching your traffic, monitoring your dns? Yes all these can be addressed - but it is just not worth the hassle.

Edited by TechGuyUK (Mon 15-Nov-21 12:25:50)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 15-Nov-21 12:48:22
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I think it often follows the number of premises served by the copper DP , though not always

Standard User Fastman3
(committed) Mon 15-Nov-21 14:18:34
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zingg

However, in the context of a Community Fibre Partnership where they'd have to do that anyway, the issue is moot. I know most would much prefer to use a private company that works for them than use Openturd to herd such cats.


clearly you nothing about CFP either !!!!!!
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