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Standard User Xuse
(regular) Fri 19-Nov-21 09:47:48
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BT mislead me?


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I'm current on BT home essentials in a 12 month contract. (Broadband for low income) On this contract I can leave at any time without early termination fees.

Fibre recently became available here and we've (the family) all chipped in to get full fibre.
I phoned BT and was told that the only way I could get the black friday deals was if I went without internet for 2-3 weeks so I sucked it up and went without a deal.

A friend told me that this is not true and you can have FTTP and FTTC alongside each other. Meaning I could have waited until FTTP was installed and then cancelled my FTTC. Is this true? If it is true is there any way I can challenge this? £180 (free 3 months) is a lot of money to me.
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 19-Nov-21 10:01:41
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Yes, you can have FTTC and FTTP installed alongside each other. I do - albeit from different providers (Plusnet and Cerberus)

However, I suspect what happened was that the Black Friday deals are for new customers only, meaning new-to-BT. You're quite lucky if you only needed to leave BT for 2-3 weeks to be treated as a "new customer".

Aside: "£180 (free 3 months)" implies you've gone for the full gigabit shebang. If money is tight, I'd say go for 160/30 or 330/50. This is tons of bandwidth, you're unlikely to notice the difference with gigabit, and can be considerably cheaper. Gigabit is mainly going to highlight inadequacies in your client devices and/or wifi.

I have 300/50 and am very happy with it. Downloading updates at 40MB/sec - unpacking and installing them takes much longer than the actual download.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 19-Nov-21 10:02:00
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It does sound rather odd ...

Yes you can have FTTP and FTTC at the same time and I cannot see any reason why you cannot get an FTTP install. Mayvbe, you need to get husband/wife/partner/parent/child at your address to have FTTP installed in their name - so separate from you.

Then, migrate your number to a VoIP provider whch will cancel your home essentials. Others may know better how to do that.


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 19-Nov-21 10:11:40
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However, I suspect what happened was that the Black Friday deals are for new customers only, meaning new-to-BT. You're quite lucky if you only needed to leave BT for 2-3 weeks to be treated as a "new customer".

Aside: "£180 (free 3 months)" implies you've gone for the full gigabit shebang. If money is tight, I'd say go for 160/30 or 330/50. This is tons of bandwidth, you're unlikely to notice the difference with gigabit, and can be considerably cheaper. Gigabit is mainly going to highlight inadequacies in your client devices and/or wifi.


That was at the back of my mind when I suggested using someone else resident there to order it.

You are definitely right about Gigabit being over the top. I have a business 300Mbit connection - all they woudl sell me at te time (Consumer could get Gigabit though) and can see no reason to upgrade.


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Fri 19-Nov-21 10:39:50
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You can have FTTP and FTTC together yes.
You cannot however have BT Home Essentials alongside another BT broadband package.
It's a package for people on universal credit and BT have taken the decision to not allow people to take advantage of Home Essentials while also spending additional money on a 2nd package. That's up to them.

I think it's fair enough. They give you a subsidised package on the condition that it's the only package you take.

Edited by j0hn83 (Fri 19-Nov-21 10:40:26)

Standard User Xuse
(regular) Fri 19-Nov-21 10:58:14
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You can have FTTP and FTTC together yes.
You cannot however have BT Home Essentials alongside another BT broadband package.
It's a package for people on universal credit and BT have taken the decision to not allow people to take advantage of Home Essentials while also spending additional money on a 2nd package. That's up to them.

I think it's fair enough. They give you a subsidised package on the condition that it's the only package you take.


Ahh, that makes sense now. I have closed my 'complaint' that I just raised. Gutted I missed out on the free 3 months, but I also had a low cost broadband for 6 months as well so it's not like I haven't benefitted.

Thanks for all the help guys.
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Fri 19-Nov-21 11:01:01
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Edit: replied to myself by mistake. Doh.

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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Fri 19-Nov-21 11:03:09
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You could try get another adult in the property (provided there is 1) to order the FTTP under a new account.
Standard User Xuse
(regular) Fri 19-Nov-21 11:11:49
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You could try get another adult in the property (provided there is 1) to order the FTTP under a new account.


I could, but the order is in and my install date is at the start of December. I don't want to mess things up.
Standard User bob_lucas
(regular) Fri 19-Nov-21 14:39:24
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I am presently on a BT Halo 1 contract (FTTC), plus a 500 minute call package. That contract is due to end on 2nd January. Halo 1 and the 500 minute call package are no longer available, even for renewals, so BT wanted me to upgrade to a Halo 3 "Black Friday" deal with a 700 minute call package, both of which would cost more and involve a new 24 month contract. I do not need any of the extras that come with Halo 3 and to add insult to injury, they warned that if I do not renew, the cost of my subscription to BT Sport would increase by £6.75 per month.

I might have been prepared to renew for 12 months on existing terms, but certainly not for 24 months. Furthermore, BT are broadcasting fewer of the sports that interest me, so I have called their bluff and cancelled the Sport subscription. Consequently, Halo 1 and the existing 500 minute call package will continue on a rolling basis and most importantly, I shall be free to move to another supplier at any time, if a better offer becomes available.

However, the key message is to beware of BT's new 24-month contract terms, which could prove to be very expensive, if you need to exit before the end of the term.
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