In reply to a post by candlerb:

Maybe the ISPs will swallow it, on the basis of (hopefully) reduced support costs of dealing with dodgy lines.

Equinox pricing and rebates for the big boys, may also play a part in all this.

It may, but ISPs with many users on 40/10 FTTC will still find the wholesale price goes up on migration to the corresponding FTTP product. So it depends how much success they have in upselling to higher bandwidth at the same time.

I reckon that the majority of users don't want to pay for extra bandwidth: if they can browse the web and they can watch an SD Netflix stream without stuttering, and pay £22 per month for this, they're happy.

Thanks Fibrebubble. I went for a little drive to scope out the cabinets but couldn't see anything just yet - maybe walking would be the trick, although a risk of falling trick albeit!

The contractors started yesterday with some roadworks/traffic lights on our road - from speaking to the friendly contractor and what I can see on BIDB/one.network they are clearing ducts and junction boxes ahead of laying cables. No sign of when they'll be laying such cables but it feels like progress at least!

In terms of them connecting back into a backbone network, I know that Mid Sussex have a network that they got some funding for - although nothing to be seen as to what benefit this brings us yet. Would it be likely that they are connecting back into that? I don't see Trooli listed as a member on the cni.coop website...

Trooli appear to be bringing their service to Mid Sussex using PIA routes from Uckfield.

I don't see the council's vastly expensive project doing much other than separating taxpayers from their money. They are bringing their broadband service to areas that now have multiple operators who can PIA for buttions.

I'd guess it's a private deployment of a few hundred gigabit leased lines, and won't affect the availability of FTTP at all.

I think the council have far more lofty ambitions

https://www.midsussex.gov.uk/about-us/press-releases...

https://www.coast2capital.org.uk/projects/burgess-hi...

https://www.coast2capital.org.uk/projects/converged-...

Thing that puzzles me about Trooli is that they don't seem to advertise or do any marketing.

I became aware of them about 6 months ago, when I saw a couple of blokes pulling fibre between 2 manholes just around the corner. As an old techie, I can recognise a fibre optic cable when I see one, but I think the average passer-by, if she paid any attention to them at all, would assume they were OR engineers.

I registered interest with Trooli, and early Feb I got a phone call to say that they would be ready to install in April. I asked why there hadn't been any publicity, and the guy sort of shrugged and said folks see our vans around and get in touch. All the installers I have seen have been subbies in plain white vans; I have never seen a Trooli badged van here, and as I'm retired I'm around and about quite a bit in the daytime. CBT boxes or similar labelled Trooli have appeared on many of the poles in the area, but I'm sure only a handful of people locally are aware of them or realise what they are.

Addresses all around are showing as "available on your street" on their website. It's nearly April now, but there have been no leaflet drops, mailshots, ads in the local press nor anything that I've ever seen. Because I wasn't completely happy with their Ts and Cs, I said I'd think about it, but they haven't followed up that initial phone call. This doesn't seem to me to be a good way to generate a return on investment.

Thanks Fibrebubble - I'd spotted those maps of the mid sussex fibre plan but they seemed pretty loose/lacking any substance of what's going to be delivered and when - they're also very low res and from the looks of it, they're running through fields between Ditchling/Hassocks and Burgess Hill. A bit strange as OR have recently run fibre along parts of the B2112 between Ditchling and the Folders lane roundabout. The mid sussex yellow line seems to be running in a field parallel to that road which I find hard to believe - especially having walked my dog through there and not seen any signs of infrastructure above ground!! I've even been trying to get info via our local councilors but they've not been particularly in the know either!

My bets are with Trooli at the moment so let's see whether they end up cabling us up! We are currently using EE 4G which isn't too bad - but not the most reliable and the ping isn't great, so browsing is pretty sluggish even with half decent bandwidth.

Funnily enough Thaumaturge - I came to know about Trooli from an advert while meaninglessly scrolling instagram. They were advertising for Hassocks which isn't exactly where I am but that got my to start digging around. I'm surprised they wouldn't be marketing more though if they actually have the infrastructure in place for you and are going live!

If they are advertising on social media then I wouldn't have seen it, 'cos I don't do any social media at all. I would think they have somewhat misjudged this area too.

Just recently noticed another area near our FTTC cabinet that they have marked for duct clearance, and it is a cabinet that serves a fairly big area of homes.