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You can't make an omelette without cracking some eggs

Good analogy! I remember the mess of the roads that the cable firms made in 90/91/92 around here, with many saying they would never sign up. 30 years later about 50% of the homes are now connected, mostly for internet as there are a lot of satellite dishes as well. (How many of those are now free sat is not known!).

Donny council sent around trigger with his broom and a few gallons of bitumen gunk, this seemed to hide the marks from Yorkshire Cable well enough, well until a 3 year old and his trike came out and put some lovely wheel marks in.

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You can't make an omelette without cracking some eggs

Our roads and pavements are bad enough as it is,
where I cycle to work, they are now digging it up again to lay more cable and the mess is awful, I have never known a mess like it, even Welsh water never made such a mess when doing the pipes in the city.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Good analogy! I remember the mess of the roads that the cable firms made in 90/91/92 around here, with many saying they would never sign up. 30 years later about 50% of the homes are now connected, mostly for internet as there are a lot of satellite dishes as well. (How many of those are now free sat is not known!).

We will see, with bill rising the way they are, people may not be so quick to spend a minimum of £33 a month on broadband and with the complaints on Facebook at the moment, I wonder how many people will think, stick that, not going through all of that.
I know some people who can now get Zzoomm, but they are not bothering at the moment, i thought my brother and sister-in-law, would have, but they are sitting tight as well.

Looks as if we are going to get Toob (from Southampton) in my town, whom apparently use the Openreach ducts (through PIA) so hopefully the street works are limited. Different to my parents whose town is being dug up (slowly) by CityFibre adding their own ducts. I see the smaller towns north of me have a complete random sprinkling of providers, from Trooli, to Zzoom, to Hey Broadband. Not sure why!

This is how it should be, use ducts already there to bring the main cable up, maybe they do here, I can't see them digging up the road all the way up to here as they will have to block a main road, so I presume they do use ducts already here for the large part.

But they are certainly digging up long trenches in other places, I have to ride over one of them.

Once one company is here, I am expecting a sprinkling of them here as well, if Zzoomm does ok,

I know one thing, cycling home last night at 10pm trying to avoid their barriers was not pleasant.

i am dreading when they come up here.

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cycling home last night at 10pm trying to avoid their barriers was not pleasant.

This did make me laugh Adrian, I did wonder if you have the same issue with parked cars at that time of night

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cycling home last night at 10pm trying to avoid their barriers was not pleasant.

This did make me laugh Adrian, I did wonder if you have the same issue with parked cars at that time of night

No, because parked cars have reflectors, and they are parked by street lights, and you don't expect a parked car to be in the middle of the cycle path or road, lying on the floor.

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because parked cars have reflectors, and they are parked by street lights, and you don't expect a parked car to be in the middle of the cycle path or road, lying on the floor.

I don't think there are any rules around cars having to be parked by street lights and for the youngsters canoodling probably a street light is not the best place to park the car. The best advice I got when learning to drive was expect the unexpected.

i never said there were any rules about cars being parked by street lights, I just said they normally are, and they normally have reflectors.
i rode a motorbike, so i certainly know about to expect the unexpected when you get idiots who pull out of junctions without looking in their cars. But that is not the point, the point is the barriers should not be lying across the road. I noticed today while out that a couple of them have been crushed, I doubt a bike or a car done that, I presume a lorry have gone over them.

It seems that Zzoomm don't give a monkey and the amount of complaints is crazy. I seen that they can't even bury the cable correctly in someone's garden, it can clearly be seen in the photo. If I was considering going to Fibre, what I have seen so far would certainly put me off, seems to be more hassle than it is worth.