If Hyperoptic were using PIA at this installation , then it wouldn’t be Openreach providing the cable or the NTE , the idea of PIA is that the Alt Net puts their own kit in OR infrastructure, if OR provided it, then it’s an ordinary installation .
This situation appears to be an ordinary EAD , A end in the exchange, but you can have an ordinary EAD , with the management end ( the A end ) in a non Openreach building, the building with the existing service can be both a B end for its primary connection to the ‘exchange’ and an A end for the circuit to the new building , the new building being the B end of that circuit that originates in the ‘first’ building.

FWIW , any new circuit that links two non OR buildings , doesn’t have a fibre that runs directly from the first building to the second building , the fibre at the second building goes back to an exchange and from the exchange to the first building , even when the two buildings are next door to each other and a short path exists between the two….if a fibre was provided by OR that went directly between the two buildings , and the ‘renter’ of that fibre stopped paying for it , the circuit would continue to work even though it wasn’t being paid for , OR would physically have to intervene in the external network to break down the circuit in these circumstances , running it through the exchange means in the event the circuit isn’t being ‘rented’ anymore , it can be broken down( ceased ) easily in the exchange .

Edited by Iniltous (Mon 16-May-22 20:40:26)

Yes I agree, think I noted in post 4, that’s it’s a standard EAD install with no PIA 😀

I've been with hyperoptic for nearly 10 years now - in my experience the gigabit package is rarely gigabit as the last mile fibre is often 1 gig, so you basically get 1gig - (sum of all usage in the apartments). So at 3am you'll probably get 1gig cos noone else is doing anything, otherwise at normal times its likely to be quite a bit slower (500meg or so).

This may have improved recently, I haven't bothered with the gigabit package for many years (still nothing really demands it and you get massively limited by peering/your wifi/hard drive speed etc).

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Just for the benefit of the OP as he may not be aware. Last year Openreach introduced (a not very popular with AltNets) surcharge where EAD circuits were being used for the AltNet to aggregate FTTP service.

Here is the ISPReview news article and the updated Openreach briefing.

Thanks. I had seen that, but what I understood from Guidance note 5 is that it doesn't apply when the EAD is only serving one building, even if it's broken down into MDUs (which I guess is probably the case for most of Hyperoptic's sites). Not that it's really my problem if they need to pay Openreach an extra £2,500 / year. Though, it would probably rule out the possibility of upgrading to 10Gb EAD for 40-50 properties if a £10,000 surcharge applies.