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In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

We don't have Vodafone here, i have been with talk talk 12 years with hardly any problems at all in all that time i don't mind paying the extra £1.50 a week

I believe Vodafone use openreach so are available everywhere openreach has service. But yes not worth changing for £1.50 😎

This is what shows for mu exchange -
https://i.postimg.cc/WzqhbHnF/llu.jpg

In reply to a post by skandia2:

Vodafone do not normally use BT Wholesale.
ISPs that use their own network / backhaul have to buy cables links at each FTTC / FTTP head end exchange to connect the Openreach kit to the backhaul network.
The main players are: BT wholsale, TalkTalk, Sky and Vodafone.
When my area had FTTC provisioned Vodafone were the last to offer a service.
When my area had FTTP provisioned the same happened, Vodafone were a year or more behind the competition.

Thanks for the info.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

This is what shows for mu exchange - https://i.postimg.cc/WzqhbHnF/llu.jpg

Samknows website has been wrong for 10 years. Ignore it

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In reply to a post by simon194:

I don't think Talk Talk guarantee the price for the term of the contract like Plusnet do.

Off the top of my head they state there will be an annual increase of up to CPI+3.9% but have to give you the option of leaving penalty free within 30 days of notifying you of the increase.

Not true. If they make an increase which is *not* in your contract, you can leave penalty-free. But if you signed up to CPI+3.9%, they will keep you to it.

See: https://www.plus.net/help/legal/cpi-plus-guide/

Can I cancel my contract because of these changes?

If we're only putting up the price of broadband, line rental, call plans, call charges and BT Sport in line with the CPI plus 3.9% and you choose to cancel because of that, you'll still need to pay any early termination charges if you're still within your minimum term. This is because the amount we can increase your price by is fixed to any increase in CPI plus 3.9% and we'll have made the price increase clear when you signed up and you'll have agreed to it in our terms and conditions.

If we put up our prices for any other reason though, you might be able to end your contract early without paying any charge.

TalkTalk did something similar to Plusnet a while ago they upped the price but gave the option to leave (as said in the other post) and this is the rest of the message is below -

Each April, we’ll adjust the monthly amount you pay for your broadband and increase by the Consumer Price Index (CPI) rate of inflation plus 3.7% (which is lower than Vodafone, BT, EE and Plusnet’s current price rise commitments).

The CPI rate that we use is announced in January each year and we will adjust your bill by this amount, plus an additional 3.7%. This change will only apply to our broadband packages (some exemptions apply).

For example, the CPI rate announced in January 2021 was 0.6%, so all relevant customers’ monthly plan prices from April of the same year would see an increase of 4.3%. So, if you normally pay £25 for your broadband service, your new monthly charge would be £26.08.
If the CPI figure is negative in the relevant year we will only increase the charges by 3.7%.

These changes are being made due to increased running costs and further investment in the network. They will allow us to continue to offer resilient, totally unlimited usage as standard. That investment also means we can bring faster speeds to customers, including full fibre, to help meet increasing data demands.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

This is what shows for mu exchange - https://i.postimg.cc/WzqhbHnF/llu.jpg

Samknows website has been wrong for 10 years. Ignore it

Thanks i will have a look at Vodafone website as i am out of contract in a couple of months.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

This is what shows for mu exchange - https://i.postimg.cc/WzqhbHnF/llu.jpg

Samknows website has been wrong for 10 years. Ignore it

Apologies to Charred for hijacking your thread.

I have checked on the Vodafone site and you are right i can get it here for £22 per month so am going to call the TT retention team next month and see if they can match it if the answer is no i will give Vodafone a try.

My point was that I've never seen an FTTC circuit where the sync was low due to line length also achieve 20Mbps on the upstream. They're always very asymmetric, and the fact the OP is getting 20Mbps up and the same down could be an indication of a fault.

In reply to a post by jpm:

the fact the OP is getting 20Mbps up and the same down could be an indication of a fault.

Worth a fault ticket, but if the ISP is providing speeds that low at peak times, I would jump to a new ISP with a reputation for fixing faults.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

We don't have Vodafone here, i have been with talk talk 12 years with hardly any problems at all in all that time i don't mind paying the extra £1.50 a week

I believe Vodafone use openreach so are available everywhere openreach has service. But yes not worth changing for £1.50 😎

This is what shows for mu exchange -
https://i.postimg.cc/WzqhbHnF/llu.jpg

Yeah, SamKnows is not reliable.

I see you live in South Cumbria. Have you checked WeFibre? https://wefibre.com/
They are an altnet provider. I see an article here https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/08/wefibr...
They are rolling out FTTP in your area.

There are many Altnet FTTP providers that don't appear in a SamKnows or general Uswitch postcode checker. These only show availability. But they don't show whether an Altnet provider is coming to your area. Sometimes you have to manually search the official websites of these Altnet providers and enter postcodes there and see if any wayleaves have passed or whether they are considering building soon.

Example, SamKnows is showing BT FTTP as available for my postcode. BT FTTP broadband availability

"You are connected to the Bishopsgate telephone exchange."

"FTTP is available in your area"

This is false, I don't have Openreach FTTP and no plans for Openreach FTTP either. It's also showing availability for FTTC in a building next to me Kensington Apartments (E1 6LW and E1 6NE) when I know they don't have it. But they have CommunityFibre, which SamKnows does not display.

I have another apartment in Central London that I rent out. Sidney Street E1 2HH. Again, no FTTC. However, they have FTTP from CommunityFibre and will get Hyperoptic in August. I had to manually do these searches myself to find out.

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In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

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I believe Vodafone use openreach so are available everywhere openreach has service. But yes not worth changing for £1.50 😎

This is what shows for mu exchange -
https://i.postimg.cc/WzqhbHnF/llu.jpg

Yeah, SamKnows is not reliable.

I see you live in South Cumbria. Have you checked WeFibre? https://wefibre.com/
They are an altnet provider. I see an article here https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/08/wefibr...
They are rolling out FTTP in your area.

There are many Altnet FTTP providers that don't appear in a SamKnows or general Uswitch postcode checker. These only show availability. But they don't show whether an Altnet provider is coming to your area. Sometimes you have to manually search the official websites of these Altnet providers and enter postcodes there and see if any wayleaves have passed or whether they are considering building soon.

Example, SamKnows is showing BT FTTP as available for my postcode. BT FTTP broadband availability

"You are connected to the Bishopsgate telephone exchange."

"FTTP is available in your area"

This is false, I don't have Openreach FTTP and no plans for Openreach FTTP either. It's also showing availability for FTTC in a building next to me Kensington Apartments (E1 6LW and E1 6NE) when I know they don't have it. But they have CommunityFibre, which SamKnows does not display.

I have another apartment in Central London that I rent out. Sidney Street E1 2HH. Again, no FTTC. However, they have FTTP from CommunityFibre and will get Hyperoptic in August. I had to manually do these searches myself to find out.

Thanks for the advice i know they are installing FTTP in the next town but to be honest i don't need the extra speed i only stream Netflix in HD and even when we are all online we don't suffer buffering in fact i was thinking of dropping to fibre 35 if i cannot get a good deal from the Talktalk retention team
(before i found out Vodafone is available)