FTTC cease procedure

I had an Openreach FTTC circuit that was ceased today. The PPP session dropped just before 0515 which I assumed was the ISP's doing. Further investigation reveals that there is no VDSL sync any more.

I seem to remember the last time I ceased an FTTC line that the VDSL sync stayed up until the port was given to someone else a week or so later. At the time the cabinet was hovering in and out of waiting list territory every few weeks.

I'd be surprised if my port was given away that quickly this time though, especially as the area is now fibre priority with almost 100% FTTP on my street.

Are Openreach now in the business of disabling DSLAM ports when circuits are ceased? Or did an OR tech nab the port before 0830 when I checked?

The sync can be remotely ceased as well as PPP/DHCP

ft247

Taking the synch off may save power, so will be part of the cease and will be automated. ( No touch)

It will also save the cooling which may be particularly important in the next couple of weeks!

Economic benefit may seem small for each line but quickly adds up and automation means incremental cost is close to zero.

That does make a lot of sense, I just wasn't aware that it was standard practice.

I'll check tonight to see if there is still voltage / dial tone on the pair. If not then tha'ts the end of the copper era at that address. To my mind that's quite a milestone - up there with the transition from B&W to colour TV, gas lamps to electricity etc.

In theory there is VM coax service available, but with two FTTP networks available there's no chance of that getting used. I'll keep the duct accessible in the front garden in case their eventual PON service is any good, but I'm not holding my breath.

In reply to a post by ft247:

I seem to remember the last time I ceased an FTTC line that the VDSL sync stayed up until the port was given to someone else a week or so later.

That isn't the norm. Someone forgot to push a button somewhere.

Usually Openreach disable your port and you lose sync before the ISP disables your login credentials.

It's certainly been an interesting era - we've seen telephone extensions go from being something that were tacked around the skirting board by BT/Post Office, to being installed as standard in new build homes, to withdrawal of the voice service that they were designed to support in about three-four decades.

I think there must be some planning authorities that still have guidance on telephone extensions in new properties, my sister's flat in London was built in 2016 and has a phone socket in every bedroom, two in the living room, and a double phone socket in the dining room. I expect there's a document somewhere still talking about fax machines and dial-up in relation to home working.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

That isn't the norm. Someone forgot to push a button somewhere.

Usually Openreach disable your port and you lose sync before the ISP disables your login credentials.

That's exactly what happened this time. Good to know.

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In reply to a post by ft247:

I seem to remember the last time I ceased an FTTC line that the VDSL sync stayed up until the port was given to someone else a week or so later.

That isn't the norm. Someone forgot to push a button somewhere.

Usually Openreach disable your port and you lose sync before the ISP disables your login credentials.

Yes. I was actually still using my Plusnet connection the night before we moved house. At bang on 1am the connection dropped. Looked at the Router Stats, upstream and downstream both saying 0kbs.

I switched off, packed up the router and laptop, and went to bed!

In reply to a post by jpm:

I think there must be some planning authorities that still have guidance on telephone extensions in new properties, my sister's flat in London was built in 2016 and has a phone socket in every bedroom, two in the living room, and a double phone socket in the dining room. I expect there's a document somewhere still talking about fax machines and dial-up in relation to home working.

Yeah. Probably about ten years behind / to catch up.

It would be impressive CW1308 in M&E specs would give way to Category 5e (at least). I means its only been about for 25 years 😂