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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 19-Aug-22 23:05:07
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Re: Alarm system and voIP woes


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Not quite - the ComIP is still available and often used when a user has a full home automation system.

You are right about the prices - a ComIP is about the same as the SmartCom 4G


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Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Fri 19-Aug-22 23:32:50
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The ComIP module is little circuit board that fits inside the control panel and can be configured with a fixed IP address. The SmartCom is a separate box and needs a DHCP server to provide it with an IP address.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 20-Aug-22 00:56:50
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And the relavancy of your post?


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Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Sat 20-Aug-22 11:33:56
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[re: Michael_Chare] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:
The ComIP module is little circuit board that fits inside the control panel and can be configured with a fixed IP address. The SmartCom is a separate box and needs a DHCP server to provide it with an IP address.


URLs of this hardware would be most helpful please.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 20-Aug-22 12:51:58
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[re: DrStrange] [link to this post]
 
Is there some other fundamental underlying non-compatibility with the light from the Fibre strands and the electonics in an alarm system that I am missing here?

Nothing to do with light and fibre, unless you’re in need of some gut health and digestion improvements. wink

Note that VoIP will run over the top of any IP based connection - be it ADSL or 4/5G cellular. We will all be running some form of VoIP after PSTN gets withdrawn in a few years. That could indeed still be served on a copper pair, where there’s no FTTP.

You’re relying on the ATA to provide a fully 100% compatible signaling interface to/from the alarm dialer. Some folks will know how finicky ATAs can be at these tasks (try getting a fax machine reliably working) - even if the ATA theoretically supports the numerous ways in which DTMF signalling can be sent/received over a VoIP service.

The recommendation with VoIP based circuits is to upgrade to an IP or combo IP/Cellular communicator card rather than chancing it with the original analogue communicators.
Standard User JonRennie
(knowledge is power) Sat 20-Aug-22 13:05:09
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https://branding.texe.com/UK/products/series/communi...

wink Comms is hard wink
Standard User DrStrange
(newbie) Sun 21-Aug-22 15:18:20
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FYI, I am now signed up to TalkTalk's FTTP with voIP. I truthfully told them I had no alarm connected - I removed the speech dialler wires from the master socket.

The CsRep said that I would "lose my landline however you will be provided with a Digital Voice Adaptor, will that be ok with you?" , and their postcode checker says keeping my landline is not an option where I live. So I got him/her to check that I could keep my landline number. They came back to me after a few minutes and said after checking thoroughly that I will not lose my landline number. Then I read the contract information they sent me which says "This plan has fibre broadband Digital Voice (includes free TalkTalk to TalkTalk calls) and doesn't need a landline". Fingers crossed I haven't lost my landline number after the install. We quite understand that the landline will no longer work over the MPF/copper line (whatever you want to call it) when changing to FTTP. I wish the ISPs could make the distinction between landlines and landline numbers clearer in the information they provide.
I honestly think the attitude of ISPs in general is they would like landline numbers to just go away - what they tell you they can provide you in relation to your landline is very ambiguous.
I don't need to keep my landline number, just would like to option of having it as another avenue of communication.

My alarm company says one of the alarm systems they can provide is a ProControl+ from Pryronix which would be a big upgrade to cameras from my Texecom Veritas. I am not going for that one, it connects through the PyronixCloud with a yearly subscription. I will not be paying any subscription.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 21-Aug-22 18:03:29
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I honestly think the attitude of ISPs in general is they would like landline numbers to just go away - what they tell you they can provide you in relation to your landline is very ambiguous.

Personal preference is always to port a number out to a third party VoIP service provider. Safeguards the number and means you can can change ISP in future without going through all these shenanigans again. Other advantages with this approach include taking your number with you where ever you are (business or pleasure) and your choice of access device - tin or software or both. Generally much cheaper in the short and long term too.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 21-Aug-22 20:17:13
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[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
I honestly think the attitude of ISPs in general is they would like landline numbers to just go away - what they tell you they can provide you in relation to your landline is very ambiguous.

Personal preference is always to port a number out to a third party VoIP service provider. Safeguards the number and means you can can change ISP in future without going through all these shenanigans again. Other advantages with this approach include taking your number with you where ever you are (business or pleasure) and your choice of access device - tin or software or both. Generally much cheaper in the short and long term too.

Agreed, and it’s the same theory that saw me in good stead with e-mail way back when.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 02-Feb-23 14:15:08
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There is now the SmartCom which has ethernet/WiFi connectivity, or the SmartCom 4G which additionally has 4G data connectivity. Probably less expensive that the original ComIP.
Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead.

Does anyone know for a fact if the 4G Smartcom unit comes with a stand sim slot or just an eSim?
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