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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Oct-22 16:30:39
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Re: "XGSPON shallow build for business"


[re: kitcat] [link to this post]
 
Thanks. It’s too laborious on a phone to scroll through all the address permutations!

Will be interested to hear what @witchunt says about the result.

How much production XGS-PON are you guys running now? Is it just within the Salisbury trial. Tell me to sod off if it’s secret squirrels. I’m just curious. 🤣
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Tue 22-Nov-22 18:17:19
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[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
Did you ever get to the bottom of this one, or was it too shallow? [sorry couldn't help myself there]
Standard User Iniltous
(regular) Tue 22-Nov-22 19:37:30
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Shallow build is used primarily in area’s where the majority of ‘dwellings’ are business addresses, typically an industrial estate or business park….in a residential setting OR build the network as close the the curtilage of the addresses to be served as possible , so the CBT is at the top of a pole , or jointbox in the footpath outside the addresses to be served, , and these addresses are are able to order FTTP , with shallow build the network is only built to be splitter node ( not the CBT ) , the splitter located somewhere centrally for the business addresses it’s intended to serve, possibly at the entrance to the estate or park , should a business order FTTP service , it’s like a two stage order on steroids, the ‘service delivery’ survey establishes what’s needed to provide the CBT and connectorised lead-in , to serve that individual address , using existing jointboxes, poles and possibly adding extra poles , jointboxes, duct etc….this is pretty much the same method as Ethernet leased lines , where the network is built from the nearest Ethernet node to the customer, but the CBT may well be useful for other neighbouring businesses ( depending on where it’s located )
This is a recent change from installing CBT’s outside business propertys and hoping orders follow, it is a more cost effective way of serving business addresses.
Not every shallow build is XGSPON , presumably the particular PON is part of a trial

Edited by Iniltous (Tue 22-Nov-22 19:49:19)


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Tue 22-Nov-22 21:04:27
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[re: Iniltous] [link to this post]
 
Many thanks for the explanation @Iniltous
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Wed 23-Nov-22 01:13:35
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[re: Iniltous] [link to this post]
 
Thank you for that valuable information. That really clears things up and will be a useful resource for folks that use the search feature on here going forward.

With the SNR on here being dubious sometimes quality knowledge is important to offset the speculation.

Again: thank you.
Standard User ft247
(committed) Wed 23-Nov-22 02:45:01
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[re: XGS_Is_On] [link to this post]
 
Very interesting and thanks for the explanation.

Presumably take-up is slower in commercial areas and the incremental cost of covering additional premises is higher, so the sums add up.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Nov-22 09:31:06
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[re: Iniltous] [link to this post]
 
I was just reading this article over at ISPr

Interesting quote below, which accords somewhat with the theme of this thread:

“According to the FT (paywall), Openreach has now informed suppliers that it will instead build its full fibre network “narrower and deeper” and “tighten the timing of investment” to a just-in-time approach (i.e. not committing capital to projects further than 6 months out). The focus will thus switch to completing areas that are already partially finished.”
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 24-Nov-22 10:39:56
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[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
Probably better to clear an area in one go vs doing 20 at once and leaving gaps then coming back later to fill.

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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 01-Feb-23 09:23:37
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All is now revealed. Well kind of…

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/01/openre...
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