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Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(committed) Wed 23-Nov-22 22:26:47
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
The wayleave status for Hyperoptic is shown after you click the "Check my progress" button.

Here's one https://hyperoptic.com/register-interest/?pafid=6004403 Chambord House. Tower Hamlets Homes association.

And here's another again Tower Hamlets Homes for Sidney Street. https://hyperoptic.com/register-interest/?pafid=6030011 Sure here it doesn't show the wayleave status. But it did show it before. Now after the installations have went ahead, they removed the wayleave status. However, it now shows "We're on our way!"

"We're bringing our full fibre network to your area and it looks like you'll be able to order service in January."

Even though the wayleave status is absent for this particular MDU, it already is indicative by the the fact that the service will go live in January.

All buildings under this housing association will have at least a wayleave status shown as "building permission granted"

You obviously haven't clicked the "Check my progress" button. Number 3 shows 3

Building permission granted

"We have an agreement to proceed with our installation for your building."

or

Building permission needed

"We are yet to request permission to install Hyperoptic Full Fibre broadband to your building."
Or it will show "We are yet to receive permission to install Hyperoptic Full Fibre broadband to your building."

The latter is how it used to show for my postcode E1 6DJ and the building next E1 6LW. It got subsequently removed because my management team refused to grant them wayleave in 2015 to 2018. I did my best to try and convince them as a Hyperoptic Champion, I was unsuccessful but at least I know it's definitively not going to happen for us and that's all that matters.

You could argue that I am using selective examples but at least they tell us in details what's going on, including the surveys.

Now I understand Hyperoptic mainly concentrate on MDU's and they also have specialized representatives for each MDU's which, you can contact for further clarification.

Openreach currently don't provide you with that same level of clarity. I can vouch that many of these checkers that show
"We're starting to build our ultra-fast, ultra-reliable Full Fibre broadband in your area."
They will not be upgraded and many of us who were once excited will be let down! I'd rather be told I am straightaway rejected then being put on hold with the hope that it will happen when it will not! The wayleave hasn't even been granted and yet they claim that they'll start to build in the area, now that's ridiculous and misleading!

I'm also speaking on behalf of some observations that I've seen of excited individuals commenting on ISPreview regarding this new checker where they think they'll get it by December 2026. They are frustrated that they have to wait till this long, when in reality some of them won't even get it at all. This checker should teach us that we need to be more philosophical and not get our hopes up!tongue
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Sat 26-Nov-22 12:28:16
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
It looks like this has gone live now, it's what I'm being served by going to the Openreach homepage. The ADSL estimates are still wrong.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 26-Nov-22 12:35:46
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jpm:
It looks like this has gone live now, it's what I'm being served by going to the Openreach homepage. The ADSL estimates are still wrong.


It's not Live yet.


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Standard User jpm
(experienced) Sat 26-Nov-22 13:48:09
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
I don't know what to tell you Max, when I go to openreach.com I am served the new checker.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sat 26-Nov-22 14:00:54
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jpm:
I don't know what to tell you Max, when I go to openreach.com I am served the new checker.


Same here.

Adrian

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 26-Nov-22 14:33:00
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
They added on it. I expecting new live go sometimes next week but have to wait for official from openreach.
Standard User kommando
(member) Sat 26-Nov-22 16:48:26
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
Same here but still giving erroneous info, is up to 1mbs really going to allow HD streaming.

Superfast Fibre Broadband

0-1 Mbps

download speed

0 - 1 Mbps
upload speed
Perfect for:

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Smaller families

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Streaming HD TV

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Connecting 20+ devices

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Online gaming
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 27-Nov-22 08:52:48
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: kommando] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by kommando:
Same here but still giving erroneous info, is up to 1mbs really going to allow HD streaming.

Superfast Fibre Broadband

0-1 Mbps

download speed

0 - 1 Mbps
upload speed
Perfect for:

Benefit Icon
Smaller families

Benefit Icon
Streaming HD TV

Benefit Icon
Connecting 20+ devices

Benefit Icon
Online gaming



it says i can get up to 24Mb/s on standard broadband, I presume that is ADSL, I would be lucky to get 3Mb/s, not so bad if it said up to 5Mb/s.
I presume they are taking the maximum speed that ADSL can cope with not really checking to see what speed is up here. I suppose if they used a phone number to check and not just a postcode, it may be better.
It is not a good checker, all it is saying is what technology is available really, FTTH, FTTC or ADSL. I am surprised that they have ADSL there, I thought they would want to blank it out.

Looking at the 1000Mb/s FTTH, I notice uploads are 220Mb/s, that is not a lot for a super-duper fast connection. I really thought witht he money Openreach have got and for the size of the company and all the money that have been put into it from different schemes supported by government and local councils and the T.V licence, that Out of reach would have built something better.
If a new company can come around and build something that is more up to date, then why can't out of reach?

Adrian

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 27-Nov-22 15:02:17
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
Mine say here:

Build not announced

Ultrafast Full Fibre Broadband

Up to

1000 Mbps

download speed
Up to
220 Mbps
upload speed

Available now

Gfast Fibre Broadband

330-330 Mbps

download speed
32 - 50 Mbps
upload speed

Available now

Superfast Fibre Broadband

78-80 Mbps

download speed
19 - 20 Mbps
upload speed

Available now

Standard Broadband

Up to

17 Mbps

download speed
Up to
1 Mbps
upload speed

These matched BTw Checker

Address ********************** on Exchange CUCKOO OAK is served by Cabinet 8
Featured Products Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) Downstream Handback
Threshold(Mbps) WBC FTTC Availability Date WBC SOGEA Availability Date
High Low High Low
VDSL Range A (Clean) help 80 79 20 19 74 Available Available
VDSL Range B (Impacted) help 80 78.2 20 19 73.4 Available Available
G.fast Range A (Clean) help 330 330 50 44.6 330 Green Green
G.fast Range B (Impacted) help 330 330 50 32.4 329.4 Green Green
Featured Products Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) Downstream Range (Mbps) Availability Date FTTP Install Process
FTTP on Demand 330 50 -- Available --
ADSL Products Downstream Line Rate (Mbps) Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) Downstream Range(Mbps) Availability Date
WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 17 -- 10 to 19.5 Available
WBC ADSL2+ Annex M Up to 17 Up to 1.5 10 to 19.5 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
SOADSL Products Downstream Line Rate (Mbps) Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) Downstream Range(Mbps) WBC SOADSL Availability Date Left in Jumper
WBC SOADSL 2+ Up to 17 -- 10 to 19.5 -- --
SOADSL Fixed Rate Up to 2 -- -- --
Other Offerings Availability Date
VDSL Multicast Available
ADSL Multicast Available
G.Fast Multicast Available
Exchange Product Restrictions Status
FTTP Priority Exchange N
WLR Withdrawal N
SOADSL Restriction Y
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Sun 27-Nov-22 16:16:09
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Re: New Openreach Broadband Availability Checker


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
The network Openreach built is perfectly capable of much higher upload speeds than the 115 they sell to residential and the 220 they sell to businesses with a £500 install fee and much higher monthly charge.

They made a conscious business decision not to offer higher upload speeds, nothing more to it than that.
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