In reply to a post by smouty:

You can set up separate SSIDs with Unifi but without VLANs is it not all just the same network still?

When you select "Guest Hotspot" on an SSID, the UI responds:

"We have applied your Guest Hotspot Profile to this SSID. By default, connected clients will be isolated from all other internal networks. We have also enabled Client Device Isolation for this SSID."

The Guest Hotspot profile blocks access to 192.168.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12 and 10.0.0.0/8, unless you modify it.

Openreach do not provide dial tone services to FTTP customers or FTTC users in WLR withdrawal areas.

If you order just a phone line from BT you will get a low bandwidth NGA service provisioned with a Smart Hub 2.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I forgot about that, but yes that is true. Maybe they should bring out a unit that will connect to any router and allow people to use the phone service on any router. i know Out of reach have some sort of VOIP box for people that don't have broadband, can that fit onto another router or does connect directly to the phone line?

Yep it's called a SmartHub2 😉 and the service when fully launched will be based on the Openreach SOTAP product, basically a heavily bandwidth restricted DSL service, with voice that runs 'over the top' i.e. Digital Voice but no other broadband service available from the line.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by GonePostal:

If I've understood things correctly you have to use the BT supplied router to access the BT VoIP service but there is nothing to stop you using the router of your choice and migrating your existing phone number to one of the third-party VoIP providers.

That is not the point, i already use VoIP, so it makes no difference to me. The thing is now it is more hassle for people.

It wasn't me that said "And this is the problem with this new digital voice thing, There need to be some way that people can change hardware if they want to and still have access to digital voice." I responded to that, not to whatever point you want to raise next as I don't have the gift of second sight to pre-empt your next averse to change rant.

In reply to a post by jpm:

Openreach do not provide dial tone services to FTTP customers or FTTC users in WLR withdrawal areas.

If you order just a phone line from BT you will get a low bandwidth NGA service provisioned with a Smart Hub 2.

i know they don't provide dial tone services to new customers in those areas, well, so they say, but i know that they have in the last 6 months,

I thought that there was an adapter just for digital voice,, but it turns out it still needs the BT hub thing, could they not give people something smaller who don't have broadband? I suppose most people who don't have broadband don't really have a phone line these days due to having mobile phones. I know for sure I would not have a phone line if I did not have broadband.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Yep it's called a SmartHub2 😉 and the service when fully launched will be based on the Openreach SOTAP product, basically a heavily bandwidth restricted DSL service, with voice that runs 'over the top' i.e. Digital Voice but no other broadband service available from the line.

I realise that now. They should something smaller and more compact than that monstrosity.

In reply to a post by GonePostal:

It wasn't me that said "And this is the problem with this new digital voice thing, There need to e some way that people can change hardware if they want to and still have access to digital voice." I responded to that, not to whatever point you want to raise next as I don't have the gift of second sight to pre-empt your next averse to change rant.

what the blazing hell are you on about?


Anyway, going back to the OP, if BT have taken out a way to have guests network, is that not going backwards? Like their routers are bloated anyway, so keeping guests network in is not going to take up a much more space, or do they need space for their bloat?

Edited by zyborg47 (Sun 27-Nov-22 14:43:30)

I believe they moved parental controls management from teh Hub to their App - have you checked on there?

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I realise that now. They should something smaller and more compact than that monstrosity.

It still needs to do nearly everything that the "monstrosity" does:
- routing/PPPoE
- ethernet uplink (for fibre ONT)
- ADSL/VDSL modem (for copper lines after WLR withdrawal)
- POTS ATA
- and/or DECT for cordless handsets

The only things it can drop are wifi and the LAN ports.

Given that (a) almost nobody buys a phone line without broadband these days, and (b) the device can be hidden away out of sight, I don't see any need for making a custom smaller version of the box. For that matter, a larger box will probably benefit from better ventilation.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

what the blazing hell are you on about?

Answering the point you wrote down not the next point that you want to pick on when you change your ground.

Let's all calm down a bit (and yes, I shouldn't have put in the bit about a rant). Anyway I've got 50 years of hurt with Hereford and Ronnie Bleeding Radford.

Edited by GonePostal (Sun 27-Nov-22 15:07:23)