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Standard User AdamBrunt
(committed) Thu 05-Jan-23 22:39:00
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Re: Best MESH system for gigabit internet ?


[re: AdamBrunt] [link to this post]
 
Well the AX20 is certainly better than the C7 smile

A laptop hardwired into the AX20 is getting speeds of almost the full 900Mb. Wifi devices sitting very close to the main MW12 node are also getting very good speeds and devices connected to the furthest node are occasionally topping out at 425Mbps (so that's a lot better as well).

I think it also means that's as good as it going to get for the time being (due to budget constraints) and whilst I think of a possible easy way of getting a wired connection through to the other end of the house
Standard User AdamBrunt
(committed) Thu 05-Jan-23 22:47:08
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My home mesh uses the Eero Pro 6 system and its rock solid.


At £560 for a 3 pack, you would hope it would be wink
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 06-Jan-23 06:46:46
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In reply to a post by neo_wales:
My home mesh uses the Eero Pro 6 system and its rock solid.


At £560 for a 3 pack, you would hope it would be wink



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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Jan-23 08:37:44
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It is Neo, he gets the best.
Certainly pricey, 'best' can be debated. I gather there is an even more expensive WiFi 6E mesh from Netgear.

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User adrenalize_
(member) Fri 06-Jan-23 09:10:15
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Yeah, the Orbi 960 is (RRP) £1699 for a 3 pack!! Unreal!! Probably better spent on the gas bill keeping warm.

I have tested a 6E router and my only 6E client (Laptop with Intel AX210 card) did get impressive speed, although I struggled to test the full potential as needed a couple of other devices wired to the router and OpenSpeedTest servers to get over 1Gbps.

However the 6GHz band has even less range than 5GHz and did drop off very very quickly, it really is designed for high speed in the same room as a cable replacement (kind of what WiFi was designed for in the first place!!) so makes me wonder how useful it is for backhaul - I don'y know if that is how the Orbi use it - they may use the 2nd 5GHz for backhaul and 6GHz just for local devices.

Location of mesh nodes is the crucial thing really - if they are only geting an average signal, they are never going to achieve great speed.

I wasnt that surprised with the Deco X20 not performing well, whilst they are WiFi 6, they are only dual band, so you'd be halving the throughput to a 5GHz client (assuming 5GHz backhaul, whilst your MW12 are tri-band.

>400Mbps at he other end of the mesh sounds pretty good though given the WiFi5/AC kit you've got.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Jan-23 10:06:03
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However the 6GHz band has even less range than 5GHz and did drop off very very quickly,
More popular in North America where their house construction is different, a lot less brick walls, so WiFi gets through. I've seen similar in rented offices with partition walls.

The European radio frequency regulators (EU & UK & Switzerland etc) have only approved half the capacity on 6 GHz than in North America, but still enough for two 160 MHz wide channels. Given the amount of systems on 5 GHz already, this could provide quite an impressive back-haul link between nodes, for then distributing using 5 GHz or even 2.4 to devices in a room.

The price may have something to do with supply issues if any parts made in or shipped through China.

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User AdamBrunt
(committed) Fri 06-Jan-23 13:13:08
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by adrenalize_:
However the 6GHz band has even less range than 5GHz and did drop off very very quickly,
More popular in North America where their house construction is different, a lot less brick walls, so WiFi gets through. I've seen similar in rented offices with partition walls.


Absolutely.

1960s built UK houses with double brick interior walls really don't like WiFi at all.
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jan-23 16:25:00
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To be clear you asked why people needed more than the speed they were getting via their ISP. I'm pretty sure that person was on a 80/20 connection.

"Though I was at least arguing that a connection speed faster than the internet connection is rarely useful. So what do you really think? "

I think:

More than 50mbps per device is probably a waste of time and money in a domestic situation but a family with 2 devices each being used concurrently and access to a server within the premises will require faster than 80mbps.

The OP is paying less for a faster speed. It's a no brainer even if the top speed can't be reached.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1, VM 2Mb & O2 Standard
Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk, upgraded to fibre 40/10

Edited by broadband66 (Fri 06-Jan-23 16:27:26)

Standard User nidstigator
(learned) Tue 10-Jan-23 17:10:16
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Were you just using the website?

Try downloading their Windows app from their site: https://www.speedtest.net/apps/windows

Here is what it looks like default for me, Hey connection, Hey server (High Wycombe): https://imgur.com/tfqKkYZ

This was my result run just now: https://imgur.com/doti7ZS

(This is before my wife starts working mind!)



Do you mind sharing your BQM for your HB connection? They're building around my area (and at the same time Netomnia seems to be building too) and I am curious what their residential connection latency profile looks like. Thanks!
Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 10-Jan-23 17:14:37
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Sure, here you go: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

It doesn't look pretty, and something weird happens at 2am and 2pm. Not sure if it's a Hey issue, or just my router prioritising other traffic.


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