Yeah, it's a basement flat with access to the street, no poles at all around. Once I'm in, I will own 25% of the management company anyway so I'm less worried about the permission aspect, I just want to get things going now before I move if possible 😁

Well the easy way to find out is if the property has an ONT socket rather than an Openreach Telephone Master Socket NTE5c. Check with your neighbours to find out what service they have.

You should also confirm what FTTP service this is. Some agencies for example list properties on their website showing Ultra Speed Fibre Optic available but they don't specify which FTTP provider it is. And so the user has to start searching though all the altnets to identify the service that's available to them.

You can check if it is another Altnet FTTP provider that's available, like CityFibre.

I don't have Openreach FTTP e.g. and it doesn't show as plan despite being in Central London. Buildings around me under same housing authority will show as planned between now and 2026 which is quite vague. Nevertheless the Openreach checker is a bit generic anyway.

But I have Community Fibre available in my building for example, haven't ordered service yet. There's high chances that Openreach will start building in my building as well. 2 weeks ago I saw Openreach FTTP van and an engineer was working just outside my street installing for another residential building next to mine.

Openreach will often build FTTP when they sense a threat of competition. When Altnets target these areas all of a sudden Openreach declare their interest in rolling out, what previously appeared to be economically unenviable!

As you are buying why is your solicitor not asking about Broadband as part of the standard pack sent to the owner?

Beastawakens
Are you using the OR checker or some other checker. If the results are from the OR checker it is likely to be a database error where the house is not recognised as flats yet. You should be able to find the link on the checker to report this to them. It used to have a pulldown to pick "My neighbours have FTTP but I cannot"

It could also be that they need agreement to put a 4 port CBT on the outside wall to serve all four flats and this hasn't (yet) been agreed. It could be one of the requests the whoever in the management company opens the mail binned as junk!.

Yeah, it's the OR checker. That may be the case, they were converted to flats in 2016...

I've asked, there's nothing in there about it apparently 🤷🏼‍♂️

The property doen't currently have an ONT socket, it is the old telephone master socket in there currently, so I'd be needing them to come install that. It's definitely showing as available for the main address from Openreach directly. Virgin media is also available as it's city centre so I'm thinking about them as an alternative...

Openreach will often build FTTP when they sense a threat of competition.

This is incorrect.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Openreach will often build FTTP when they sense a threat of competition.

This is incorrect.

What's incorrect about it?
They are following behind Alt-Nets up and down the country.

It would be negligent of them not to target areas where rivals are building their network.

An area is far more likely to be selected for FTTP by Openreach if an Alt-Net picks that particular area.

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 23-Feb-23 12:32:25)

Not incorrect. Even Mark Jackson from ISPreview said the same thing in the comment section in reply to another poster called Fastman who was trying to attack another user saying "why would Openreach build in areas where there are Altnets." Well something along the line as he has made these repeated claims over the last couple of years.

Here is the link https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/11/focus-...
I'm not confabulating or making this up. Read the comment sections.

Mark Jackson says:
November 23, 2022 at 11:07 am

"To be fair Fastman, there have been various examples in the past of rural communities where Openreach have only started to build FTTP after an altnet made its own plans public or started building, often doing a dramatic U-turn in the process (e.g. calling it commercially unviable one day, then reversing that the next)."

Also the comment sections of this FT article this month https://www.ft.com/content/031dcf72-dfaf-4e90-85d2-3...
"BT chief warns Openreach fibre push will ‘end in tears’ for rivals"

If you can't read the article directly without FT subscription just copy and paste the heading to google search and the article will open from the link.

Here scroll down and you will see 89 comments of other posters giving their same experience. This is Openreach and Philip Jansen basically indirectly telling us all that he wants to maintain its monopoly and to try and make the Altnets lose courage and stop building, that is indeed his wish.

I can also go as far as to say that this is the first time 2 weeks ago I saw Openreach FTTP works outside in Wentworth street, Petticoat Square Market here in London and I saw the physical fibre cables. For years I have never seen Openreach do any fibre works. They barely upgraded my area to FTTC from EO Line in October 2019 after years of waiting on faulty ADSL service.

My area has just gone live in December by Community Fibre following a wayleave agreement 2 years ago. And now Openreach FTTP are starting to work in my area. These are not business but residential homes. Sorry, but that is not a coincidence!

Do you think Openreach will be happy to just sit there and eventually lose all their FTTC customers to the Altnets and not do anything about it? Of-course not! Why is the "Fibre First programme" announced? Is it because they are only doing this purely out of courtesy?