Cheaper to redirect than increase capacity, I suppose from an ISP point of view, if they have a under utilised link and one thats full, they might see it as wasted money to upgrade the fully loaded link in preference to sharing the load with the lightly loaded link, so depends in the ISP values their balance sheet or service quality more.

This sort of stuff likely happens commonly on transit providers, but when its extreme like going to the opposite part of the country first is when consumers start to notice.

In reply to a post by bluebull:

That sucks. I just have this horrible vision of the future. ISP's trying to sell us "gaming broadband", obviously more expensive than regular broadband.

There are already ISPs that market themselves that way.

If you choose any "small" ISP, which typically only has one POP (or maybe two) in London, then the issue goes away. They'll rely on BT or Talktalk Wholesale to bring the traffic to their POP, and that routing is fixed.

If you buy from a large-scale ISP with rock-bottom pricing, then you get what you get.

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In reply to a post by bluebull:

That sucks. I just have this horrible vision of the future. ISP's trying to sell us "gaming broadband", obviously more expensive than regular broadband.

There are already ISPs that market themselves that way.

If you choose any "small" ISP, which typically only has one POP (or maybe two) in London, then the issue goes away. They'll rely on BT or Talktalk Wholesale to bring the traffic to their POP, and that routing is fixed.

If you buy from a large-scale ISP with rock-bottom pricing, then you get what you get.

What about the ISPs like IDNet who are migrating customers from BTW backhaul to Zen. This is presumably a measure driven by finance. They are definitely not in the rock-bottom pricing group but there is evidence if you search t'internet that some of their customers have been adversely affected by the change. Given the awareness of the average consumer in regard to technology matters the people posting on t'internet are probably part of a small subset of the total number of customers affected.

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In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by bluebull:

That sucks. I just have this horrible vision of the future. ISP's trying to sell us "gaming broadband", obviously more expensive than regular broadband.

There are already ISPs that market themselves that way.

If you choose any "small" ISP, which typically only has one POP (or maybe two) in London, then the issue goes away. They'll rely on BT or Talktalk Wholesale to bring the traffic to their POP, and that routing is fixed.

If you buy from a large-scale ISP with rock-bottom pricing, then you get what you get.

What about the ISPs like IDNet who are migrating customers from BTW backhaul to Zen. This is presumably a measure driven by finance. They are definitely not in the rock-bottom pricing group but there is evidence if you search t'internet that some of their customers have been adversely affected by the change. Given the awareness of the average consumer in regard to technology matters the people posting on t'internet are probably part of a small subset of the total number of customers affected.

Imagine that you have left, for example, Zen because of its "spotty" backhaul, and gone to an ISP which did not use Zen's backhaul only to be moved back onto it.