In reply to a post by TheInstaller:

As you aren't having a standard upgrade all with the same provider, ask the installer to leave the existing copper dropwire up and fit a new fibre cable to your property, this should also mean you'll require a new fixing to your property for the fibre cable, as the copper and fibre cables shouldn't be connected to the same fixing at the property end.

thanks for the info on the dropwire, its not something that i was aware of - thank you

In reply to a post by TheInstaller:

Ask them to use the existing hole the copper cable uses to enter your property and if required make that hole larger so both cables can enter through the same entry point. All perfectly possible to do, but just be aware that some of the newer engineers aren't trained in copper, only fibre so they might need to call for assistance from another engineer etc.

Currently the existing hole from the outside to the inside has the nte5 box positioned on the hole (as it should be) ..... can i ask them to move from it from the wall.

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The properties has two lines from one dropwire, one going into the loft and the other in the room below. I believe it was jointed on the side of the house where it was split for the newer line.

Thanks again to you; TheInstaller. Also thanks dect and Zarjaz.

Edited by Taras (Tue 28-Mar-23 22:47:30)

You can ask them to move the master socket yes, but this might just create more mess and also the existing copper cable probably won't be long enough when you move it and if the engineer doesn't have any copper cable, because they only do fibre, then you have a problem.

Not a problem with the NTE being over the entry hole, the fibre cable can be run into the back of the master socket box and out at the bottom and the ONT, which can be fitted to the side of the NTE inline, you'll just have a loop of fibre out the bottom of the master socket and into the ONT and both white boxes side by side in line as you'd get with plugs etc. The above is obviously depending there being no other pipes or wires etc either side of the master socket and space to do that etc etc etc.

Done this plenty of times and looks very neat. A lot does depend on the engineer you get on the day mind. Good luck.

In reply to a post by TheInstaller:

You can ask them to move the master socket yes, but this might just create more mess and also the existing copper cable probably won't be long enough when you move it and if the engineer doesn't have any copper cable, because they only do fibre, then you have a problem.

Not a problem with the NTE being over the entry hole, the fibre cable can be run into the back of the master socket box and out at the bottom and the ONT, which can be fitted to the side of the NTE inline, you'll just have a loop of fibre out the bottom of the master socket and into the ONT and both white boxes side by side in line as you'd get with plugs etc. The above is obviously depending there being no other pipes or wires etc either side of the master socket and space to do that etc etc etc.

Done this plenty of times and looks very neat. A lot does depend on the engineer you get on the day mind. Good luck.

Thank you for the second solution - i had hoped the fibre cable can come thru the nte5 box at the bottom - its about 2cm above the skirting board and theres clearance for enough bending slack . You've given me a few ways to keep things neat !

I had fiber installed a few days ago, and like you have a copper line (which remains). I also thought the installer would remove copper and install the lead tube thing. I asked if he could put fiber in existing hole with copper, he said he could put a new hole in same backbox as I had some cat5 I wanted to replace the old copper line with. Anyway perhaps I wasnt very clear as he left faceplate off so I could terminate cat 5 and it ended up looking like this:

Fiber install

I had to drill and grommit the blank on modular faceplate.
I needed the cat 5 to go into attic for an access point that serves the garage and garden, as I tried and failed to run it down into a coaxial ariel box, but the cable was trapped in the wall somewhere. I'm not sure how I feel about the delicate fibers exposed on the outside.

In reply to a post by Hydro_Pri_m8:

I had fiber installed a few days ago, and like you have a copper line (which remains). I also thought the installer would remove copper and install the lead tube thing. I asked if he could put fiber in existing hole with copper, he said he could put a new hole in same backbox as I had some cat5 I wanted to replace the old copper line with. Anyway perhaps I wasnt very clear as he left faceplate off so I could terminate cat 5 and it ended up looking like this:

Fiber install

I had to drill and grommit the blank on modular faceplate.
I needed the cat 5 to go into attic for an access point that serves the garage and garden, as I tried and failed to run it down into a coaxial ariel box, but the cable was trapped in the wall somewhere. I'm not sure how I feel about the delicate fibers exposed on the outside.

So who provides the infrastructure for your copper service and who provides the infrastructure for your full fibre service?

Fibre is Fiber heroes / befibre
Copper is openreach / plusnet

From what i understood fiber heroes are a competitor to openreach and are allowed to install hardware alongside openreach

Maybe I'm wrong and they've killed the copper service but I don'r know because I'm not using it.

In reply to a post by Hydro_Pri_m8:

I also thought the installer would remove copper and install the lead tube thing..

The main point is other non-Openreach infrastructure providers are not allowed to touch/remove the Openreach copper cable so you was always likely to get a new hole through your outside wall. The OP is talking about Openreach for both copper and fibre which is different.

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I will have OR fttp and i currently have sky fttc, which migrated itself from pn

In reply to a post by Taras:

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I will have OR fttp and i currently have sky fttc, which migrated itself from pn

I don't understand, is that a statement or question? you currently have OR FTTC and hopefully will be migrating to OR FTTP

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Taras:

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I will have OR fttp and i currently have sky fttc, which migrated itself from pn

I don't understand, is that a statement or question? you currently have OR FTTC and hopefully will be migrating to OR FTTP

Thank you for answering my question 😁