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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Sep-23 08:27:33
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We never saw any updates regarding that ..

anyways its an idea struck off .. 😂😁
Standard User Realalemadrid
(experienced) Thu 07-Sep-23 09:18:25
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A bit off topic but remember this i3 Fibrecity project?

Fibrecity

Don't know if any of their other projects got off the ground or went down the pan.smile
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Sep-23 09:25:23
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I can't actually remember what happened to Fibrecity.. Hilariously i've been past Bournemouth town hall a few times and not realised it was the council offices.


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Standard User tdw42
(committed) Thu 07-Sep-23 14:20:02
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In reply to a post by mnbvcxz:
Trying again with BT is an idea. No body seems to know if they will actually swallow gerater install costs. And they are the cheapest for adsl with a call package oddly. So it could fail gracefully in theory...


Probably worth a go. If they start off on the FTTP approach and come back with ECCs which you decline they can raise an exception with Openeach for a copper product and should be able to supply traditional WLR + ADSL (Openreach have delayed the stop-sell for this until Mar 2024 where other products are not available as SOTAP/SOADSL isn't ready).

Zen should be able to do this too if you can get through to someone who understands the situation.
Standard User PCJM40
(learned) Sat 09-Sep-23 10:09:12
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Thank you though the fear is the storm drain will be damaged by the duct trenching rather than offering a place for a conduit. I'm not sure exactly where it is buried to be honest.
Still confused how an acceptable overhead cable route for copper has partially been replaced by a length of duct when it comes to the fibre route without an explanation to the person now having to pay for it. If the existing route is unacceptable then Openreach should have been back long ago to replace that part of the copper route.

Edited by PCJM40 (Sat 09-Sep-23 10:10:04)

Standard User binary
(committed) Sat 09-Sep-23 11:53:30
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In reply to a post by PCJM40:
In reply to a post by mnbvcxz:
Thank you though the fear is the storm drain will be damaged by the duct trenching rather than offering a place for a conduit. I'm not sure exactly where it is buried to be honest.


Still confused how an acceptable overhead cable route for copper has partially been replaced by a length of duct when it comes to the fibre route without an explanation to the person now having to pay for it. If the existing route is unacceptable then Openreach should have been back long ago to replace that part of the copper route.


I'm not sure this folllows, in reality at least. I imagine there are all manner of copper line routes which don't 'comply' with installation rules (and so officially would not be deemed acceptable) but exist and continue to provide service nontheless.
Standard User PCJM40
(learned) Sat 09-Sep-23 14:54:26
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In reply to a post by PCJM40:
If the existing route is unacceptable then Openreach should have been back long ago to replace that part of the copper route.
I'm not sure this folllows, in reality at least. I imagine there are all manner of copper line routes which don't 'comply' with installation rules (and so officially would not be deemed acceptable) but exist and continue to provide service nontheless.
I think its easier to accept when the copper is buried directly in the ground without ducting but this is an existing overhead route. As I said it would have been nice for someone to have explained why the existing route is now unacceptable and will incur a cost of £1500. Different surveyors possibly different outcomes as the duct route doesn't come without possible issues under that bridge.
Standard User Iniltous
(regular) Sat 09-Sep-23 19:43:13
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There are many things that once were acceptable but now are not ,( brackets on chimneys or example) it’s pretty irrelevant that the current copper service is hanging off the wall of a railway bridge , it remains the fact that the new network has to be build under current guidelines……what isn’t done is anyone going around , discovering items not upto current standards and removing the offending lineplant leaving customers out of service.
FWIW , cable on wall is a perfectly acceptable method, so presumably the surveyor
decided that as it were not the customer’s property ( the bridge that is ) it wouldn’t be appropriate, or maybe even checked with Railtrack who said that cable on wall couldn’t be used , we can only speculate

Edited by Iniltous (Sat 09-Sep-23 19:53:24)

Standard User PCJM40
(learned) Sat 09-Sep-23 22:18:06
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we can only speculate
True smile
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 10-Sep-23 22:49:24
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What is the current position regarding brackets on facia boards?

I ask because a neighbour had problems with his copper dropwire bracket on the bungalow's chimney being replaced with a bracket on the facia board. This when an intermediate pole was fitted a few years ago. This resulted in the facia board being pulled off the rafters etc. He got nowhere with TalkTalk his ISP. He changed to Vodafone and recently took up their FTTP.

They (OR?) left the copper dropwire since the analogue connector had not been provided for the router and fitted an additional bracket for the fibre drop wire on the facia board 12/15 feet away!

Walking past this afternoon, I could see that the facia board is not hard against anything behind it....

Cheers!

Clive

Andrews & Arnold Home::1 FTTP Technicolor DGA0122 Cisco ATA191 for A&A VoIP together with a HUAWEI E5776 with O2 Data SIM
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