Brackets on facia boards are deemed acceptable. (Though an eyebolt into brick is preferred)
If possible, try and secure with wood screws that pass right through and go into roof timbers too (though this is often not possible as these timbers might not be visible.


IMHO The property you mention Clive sounds as though the facia boards were not securely fixed the the property themselves.

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IMHO The property you mention Clive sounds as though the facia boards were not securely fixed the the property themselves.

Not all facia boards are designed to have cables hanging off of them, mine are only plastic and secured via special pins which are good enough for their intended purpose but then add extra load via a cable and damage is very likely.

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Thank you though the fear is the storm drain will be damaged by the duct trenching rather than offering a place for a conduit. I'm not sure exactly where it is buried to be honest.

Still confused how an acceptable overhead cable route for copper has partially been replaced by a length of duct when it comes to the fibre route without an explanation to the person now having to pay for it. If the existing route is unacceptable then Openreach should have been back long ago to replace that part of the copper route.

From the photos provided, it looks like the overhead copper run is not in any way attached to the railway structure. There would therefore be no problem from that perspective duplicating that with fibre if Openreach chose to.

Also from the photos however, it appears that the copper run is sufficiently long that the wind causes it to rub up against the structure and the copper has been protected to counter that. It might be that it is now Openreach's policy that an arrangement where its fibres rub against a structure is not permitted.

While in no way questioning Zarjaz, who knows his stuff, I would not entertain anything attached to facia boards. On older houses the wooden facias eventually rot, often at their mounting points to the rafters. In this case the facias are often neatly covered by plastic which may seem secure but it isn't. I've seen probably a quarter mile of fallen gutters to prove it.

Our 1968 bungalow had its BT line attached to its wooden facia. Around 1992 I noticed one of the securing screws had pulled out, the remaining one supporting some 30m of cable over what has become a very busy road. In fairness, BT was out within 15 hours of my call and fitted an eyebolt into the brick gable instead.

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From the photos provided, it looks like the overhead copper run is not in any way attached to the railway structure. There would therefore be no problem from that perspective duplicating that with fibre if Openreach chose to.

Also from the photos however, it appears that the copper run is sufficiently long that the wind causes it to rub up against the structure and the copper has been protected to counter that. It might be that it is now Openreach's policy that an arrangement where its fibres rub against a structure is not permitted.

When I looked at the pictures I also didn't think it looked as if the copper cable was attached to the underside of the arch. There is a special wrap that can be put on aerial fibre cables to stop them rubbing, normally for where fibre cables go through trees although very rarely used by either contractors or openreach engineers, this wrap I believe extends the life of the cable considerably.

The dropwire was attached to the facia only a few inches from the end, and whilst not a 90 deg pull, the dropwire to the new intermediate pole was taught. A bit of slack would have helped.

I am aware that chimneys are not now used, but surely a few courses up above the gutter line would be pretty secure.

Personally, when I arranged to have our dropwire moved a few years ago, I asked the engineer if he could use a Bracket 32 mounted on our fascia board - also near the end - but with the drop wire pulling the fascia towards the house rather than away. The Bracket 32 allowed the dropwire to be above the tiles.

It has worked out well and the same bracket was used 31st July for our FTTP (the copper dropwire being removed at the same time at my request - I am wary of lightning, this following damage which prompted me to have the drowire moved previously).

Cheers!

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If the customer agreed to pay the £1,500 and it turned out to be a much bigger job with much higher costs could Openreach/CP come back to the customer for more money or is it a fixed price?

It's fixed price. At least, it was for my FTTPoD. After taking ages to fix a bunch of small blockages, when it finally came to pull the cable they found that a trunk duct was full, and they had to dig an extra 164m in the carriageway at their own expense