In reply to a post by G1967:

I think I’ll hold out and remain on the current set up until everything gets switched off

This is just kicking the can down the road

Possibly, but it’s not my can at the moment I’m kicking, if there’s an urgency to get people over to digital then the providers have to go their bit to put the customer in the same position as before. Rollout still in its infancy a bit like electric cars, in a state of flux monthly.

Ofcom’s article:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2021/upgrading-...

In reply to a post by G1967:

if there’s an urgency to get people over to digital then the providers have to go their bit to put the customer in the same position as before

I don't think it's reasonable to expect providers to re-arrange home wiring on behalf of customers, or to (re)configure alarm systems. I'm afraid you'll have to take some personal responsibility otherwise you're likely to find things don't work as you'd like post PSTN switch-off.

(you might have some extra time as TalkTalk use MPF, but fundamentally the future will be all IP so you might as well start preparing sooner rather than later)

I’m certainly not asking anyone to reconfigure my wiring or alarm but simply asking the question where is the retrofit technology consideration in these matters. The personal liability costs are mounting up because of so called up grades, 7.5k for a new heat pump boiler, 30k for a battery car, etc etc etc - get my drift. Thanks for the input but I’ll wait a couple of years as I don’t think my Netflix will differ much if I’m a few hundred mbps down. Govt. policy is up and down like aa yo yo.

Reminds me of the time when terrestrial signal was being switched off for tv services everyone was going mad buying something called digital arieals which don’t really exist.

In reply to a post by G1967:

I think I’ll hold out and remain on the current set up until everything gets switched off, apparently I’ve heard that city fibre are working on solutions where there can still be digital and landline services for people in similar situation as mine. Not really prepared to pay out for the dialler upgrade as the upgrades are a national thing rather than a personal one.

They should have thought of this beforehand.

With respect I would suggest that this is only sensible if you use the time between now and end-2025 to plan how you are going to manage the transition, not just hold out and do nothing. While I would agree that there has been insufficient publicity about the switch-off, which is not helped by the fact that all the different CPs out there may take different approaches, it has been known since 2017 that this is going to happen. @jchamier's reference is dated 2021. It's all very well blaming "They", but you need to take some responsibility yourself. If you're not willing to upgrade your dialler if necessary, and it turns out for whatever reason not to be compatible with VoIP systems, then there's not much that CityFibre nor any other ISP will be able to do.

I would not rely on "urgency" to transfer folks to VoIP to force them to come up with a solution, especially if you reject the transition now. My guess is that, come the end of 2025, many folks are going to be left high and dry with kit that no longer works.

It's now too late to switch ISPs if you don't like the way TT are handling this. The PSTN stop-sell came into force on 5 September. Any ISP you switch to now will only be able to offer you a digital voice line of some kind.

In reply to a post by G1967:

simply asking the question where is the retrofit technology consideration in these matters

You can probably use voice reinjection to make extension wiring work. You would need to check with your alarm manufacturer if it works over VoIP.

It doesn't matter if you upgrade to FTTP or not -- the PSTN is being switched off at the end of 2025.

Well they’re still selling the old system packages for 24months on uswitch if you care to look. And TT are quite happy to renew my current package and set ip, contrary clearly no rush

If the sell stop came into force on the 5sept then why are TT prepared to renew my existing package / setup for another 18 months, look on uswitch deals galore on copper setup. The only this that’s lagging is my wallet

In reply to a post by G1967:

Well they’re still selling the old system packages for 24months on uswitch if you care to look. And TT are quite happy to renew my current package and set ip, contrary clearly no rush

They can decide at any time (even if you have signed a new contract) to switch you to their digital voice service so please don't be fooled that you will have many many more years on a analogue voice service. Is there any way you could use your neighbour's migrated service to test your old fashion legacy dialler? you might find it works!!

Edited by PCJM40 (Mon 25-Sep-23 22:02:53)