In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I know they do, I don't know who Zzoomm uses, I tried a traceroute, but it comes back with very little.

I'm not going to bother with the rest. Just this quoted statement shows you've no idea what you're talking about.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I know they do, I don't know who Zzoomm uses, I tried a traceroute, but it comes back with very little.

Your own thread in 2021.
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/4690595-is-z...

This doesn't help with how your traffic from your home, and others in your town is connected back to Zzoomm's central data centres. The ASN and BGP stuff from that thread is about the connectivity from the data centres to the rest of the internet. Traceroute is a very basic tool, doesn't show you the path from your home to the data centres.

Zzoomm may not have their own data centres but rent space in a neutral exchange point, e.g. the various Telehouse options in London, or elsewhere such as Manchester.

Edited by jchamier (Fri 03-Nov-23 19:28:20)

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I know they do, I don't know who Zzoomm uses, I tried a traceroute, but it comes back with very little.

I'm not going to bother with the rest. Just this quoted statement shows you've no idea what you're talking about.

fine, be like that.
It was just an idea, as I heard that sometimes traceroute can show what third party is used. Not always.
We can't all be wizz with networks, like you think you are, or do you just think you are?

Just show what a nit you are, I used nit because if I used anything stronger i would be banned, and I don't want to be banned because of you.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Your own thread in 2021.
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/4690595-is-z...

This doesn't help with how your traffic from your home, and others in your town is connected back to Zzoomm's central data centres. The ASN and BGP stuff from that thread is about the connectivity from the data centres to the rest of the internet. Traceroute is a very basic tool, doesn't show you the path from your home to the data centres.

Zzoomm may not have their own data centres but rent space in a neutral exchange point, e.g. the various Telehouse options in London, or elsewhere such as Manchester.

I realise that traceroute is a basic tool, just worth a go.
I saw the RIPE database entry. At the end of the day, all I am bothered about is that it stays working, and at the moment that is what it is doing. Just hope it keeps doing it. They do seem to have more updates than what plusnet used to have, or they just tell us.

Had BT install my FTTP July 21 - to this day, I've not had 1 second of downtime.

I do get the odd PPP drop at 1am (due to balancing traffic usually) - These are rare

Thanks, this is the sort of response I was looking for - just to get a feel for other folks' experiences. I didn't want to start another holy war.

I'm beginning to think that altnets are cheap for a reason.

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

Thanks, this is the sort of response I was looking for - just to get a feel for other folks' experiences. I didn't want to start another holy war.

I'm beginning to think that altnets are cheap for a reason.

Some certainly are. YouFibre have been great for me but no guarantee others haven't cut corners.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Not conflicting anything, just saying that i have more problems since going fibre than I had with FTTC.

No, you're mixing them up again.

What you've actually had is more problems since switching to *Zzoomm* than you had with your previous provider (who happened to use FTTC).

The problem is not with fibre, it's with Zzoomm. If Zzoomm had provided you a service over FTTC, it would have failed in the same way.

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

Thanks, this is the sort of response I was looking for - just to get a feel for other folks' experiences. I didn't want to start another holy war.

I'm beginning to think that altnets are cheap for a reason.

At the other half house at the moment, and she uses Gigaclear and been with them for almost 18 months, and she has had no problems, well nothing to speak off. She is going to recontract, but at a lower speed.

I suppose new networks need time to iron out the wrinkles, mine have improved over the last couple of weeks, maybe they have sorted out the problems. Zzoomm is by all accounts upgrading their backhaul to Hereford, so that should help if there is a problem again.

At the end of the day, it depends on what you want, I was never bothered with speed, I changed as I have said before because of price, and they offered me a better deal with a shorter contract than other providers. Being a 12-month contract, it means I can dump them after 12 months if things are not good, with many providers being 18 months or more, you are stuck, plus you have to put up with the price increases.

I have not seen as many complaints on zzoomm's Facebook page, so I presume things have improved, for other people as well.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

No, you're mixing them up again.

What you've actually had is more problems since switching to *Zzoomm* than you had with your previous provider (who happened to use FTTC).

The problem is not with fibre, it's with Zzoomm. If Zzoomm had provided you a service over FTTC, it would have failed in the same way.

I may see it is Zzoomm having these problems and not the fibre itself, apart from someone breaking a fibre backhaul and yes I know that would have affected people on FTTC, but less so as FTTC is slower anyway. It is other people that may think FTTP is unreliable if they chat to other people who have been having problems with FTTP.

This lad I chat to in Coventry is so fed up with FTTP, he was looking at going back to FTTC, he knows it is not FTTP that is the problem, but it is an extra bit to go wrong and it is going wrong. We presume it is the ONT that have problems