In reply to a post by jchamier:

The front page stories about 185,000 homes passed, and 20,000 take up, I suspect is quite typical.

The figures on TBB in the last couple of days says 28% take-up rate on average across the UK but in the more rural areas it's 49% probably because in those places it's the first offering with a significant speed boost for people who typically were supplied via longer copper connections.

In reply to a post by rippedcotton:

probably because in those places it's the first offering with a significant speed boost for people who typically were supplied via longer copper connections.

Agreed, and I wonder for those providers that sell different speed products, if the medium speed products are more common in built up, and higher speed in rural, as built up areas may be moving from older services and people feel "200 Mbps is good enough, I'm used to 60" and rural people will go for 500 Mbps as they only had 5 Mbps before. Doubt we will ever know!

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by rippedcotton:

probably because in those places it's the first offering with a significant speed boost for people who typically were supplied via longer copper connections.

Agreed, and I wonder for those providers that sell different speed products, if the medium speed products are more common in built up, and higher speed in rural, as built up areas may be moving from older services and people feel "200 Mbps is good enough, I'm used to 60" and rural people will go for 500 Mbps as they only had 5 Mbps before. Doubt we will ever know!

I recently moved from 80/20 FTTC to 500/75 FTTP, initially my provider suggested the 100Mbps FTTP product, but I said I wanted the faster speed because otherwise I wouldn't notice the difference.

Memories of 3kB/s dialup are strong...

Not directly related but I have been playing around with NetBoot.xyz running it locally and with a 1gbit connection you can boot a device from the network and have a working Linux install in under 5 mins.
Unless the hosting speeds improve this would not speed up much more.

For home use I cannot see any genuine use case for anything faster currently.

Edited by smouty (Fri 22-Dec-23 14:37:06)

In reply to a post by smouty:

For home use I cannot see any genuine use case for anything faster currently.

You may be right, but as with the improvement in GPS accuracy when the deliberate errors in the signal timings were removed in 2000 and "accuracy became addictive" I suppose everyone likes additional speed and reduced latency.

My biggest improvement in service moving to Community Fibre (I believe XGS-PON) isn't the downstream - I had that on Virgin - it's been the reliability. The thing is never down and never has issues. It's hard to market that. So if the 20Gbps service means more reliability for whatever reason, then it's a win.

I've also found going from VM's 52Mbps upload to CF's 1Gbps upload has made a large difference. It's so nice being able to stream my media in full quality anywhere I've been. Nice case, most people stream but I prefer my own media.

In reply to a post by rxp:

My biggest improvement in service moving to Community Fibre (I believe XGS-PON) isn't the downstream - I had that on Virgin - it's been the reliability. The thing is never down and never has issues. It's hard to market that. So if the 20Gbps service means more reliability for whatever reason, then it's a win.

I've also found going from VM's 52Mbps upload to CF's 1Gbps upload has made a large difference. It's so nice being able to stream my media in full quality anywhere I've been. Nice case, most people stream but I prefer my own media.

Yes, reliability is a good selling point but as you say hard to demonstrate. Perhaps the stats for it should be required in the advertising for a service.

I don't have access to anything other than OR fibre here, and probably never will, so until they decide at some point to provide faster upload or even symmetric up/down speeds then you have an option I don't. Luck of the draw really.

ISPs would have to be careful advertising reliability as well because it starts to sound like an SLA

In reply to a post by jpm:

ISPs would have to be careful advertising reliability as well because it starts to sound like an SLA

Yes, that is a good point. However moving to FTTP is supposed to be improving the reliability of the OR network at least, and designing infrastructure with reliability and resilience is not a bad plan.

What rubbish.

My home router is a ccr2004-1g-12s+2xs, has 2 25g ports, and would likely get close enough. It's a similar price category to the udm pro, at about £450, which is a similar price to some of the "gamer" monstrosities with 27 antennas you see.