In reply to a post by PCJM40:

I thought the financial year started 6 Aprils and financial quarters would start from April as well (not from January) but I am no expert. Are fiscal quarters the same as financial quarters?

I have no idea. But I just wish Openreach site just put live date on it subject to non issues rather than Build planned between now and Dec-2026 are not very helpful at all.

Edited by adslmax (Tue 16-Apr-24 17:01:19)

Companies can choose their end-of-year date; so each company could see Q1-Q4 differently with Q4 ending on their end-of-year date.

Or they could choose to follow HMRC quarters (with the year from 6th April) or calendar quarters.

In short, each company can decide their own...which isn't that helpful in this context,

Yeah I agree these context isn't very helpful at all. Can be very confused by wrong date.

its the first of jan to first 1st of april for q1. I only know this from various comments by OR via phone and email. I got confused by a initial response by OR last year - same as max.

You can also look at the bt group financials to gather the quarter dates for them.

In reply to a post by Taras:

its the first of jan to first 1st of april for q1. I only know this from various comments by OR via phone and email. I got confused by a initial response by OR last year - same as max.

You can also look at the bt group financials to gather the quarter dates for them.

Are BT Group financials might be difference to Openreach financials?

In reply to a post by daern:

Out of the top five ISPs by volume in the UK (BT, Virgin, Sky, Talk Talk, Vodafone), only Vodafone will give you a static IPv4 address on a residential service, with the others either declining full stop,

The whole thread is confusing the network operator that runs the physical fibre (or copper) network with the ISP. That there are 5 "big ISPs" on a network doesn't impact the services that are available for those whom can use the ISP selector in the main site.

Just as in 2000 you could dial up any ISP you like using copper wires, in 2024 if you have Openreach or CityFibre FTTP in your road, you can choose from a selection of ISPs each whom has different products.

Static IP is useful to some people, I had one from Plusnet for years, but I'm now with Virgin Media whom don't offer. Its not a critical feature for the majority of home users. (even IT professionals shouldn't need as nobody should use IP address as authentication).

In reply to a post by ajd1:

I just checked the Openreach site and it is telling me that "Build planned between now and Dec-2026" Pretty vague...

Deliberately so... as was reported on this site and ISPreview, in the early days of the FTTP project, Openreach were getting a lot of stick from media and pressure groups, so now they don't publish their plans. (As they need to change them often!).

In reply to a post by ajd1:

Does this mean we are tied into BeFibre as a provider?

If the case then it does not sound right/fair, do they have an exclusivity period or do they have a permanent monopoly?

I don't know anything about BeFibre, but the reality is that it makes little sense to have several different providers offering fibre in the same place.

Like mains water, gas or electricity, it's a natural monopoly.

OK, some providers are rubbish (hello Virgin), but this MLM scheme of reselling connectivity is just adding cost and complexity.

One good connectivity provider is all you need.

Jeremy Corbyn was right: free fibre broadband service ought to be a basic entitlement, but that was too radical an idea for the voters, who preferred to have posh spivs in control.

Try https://bidb.uk/ and then click on Full Fibre Ltd and then click Full List Of ISPs - you can also see if your area has any other planned rollouts. The Fibre Heroes site should also list all the resellers.

The main thing with Full Fibre Ltd is the price can be great but normally a really good price means a shared CG NAT IP address. If that is a problem remember to factor in having to pay for a proper IP address usually £4/5 per month extra. Some of the Full Fibre Ltd resellers already include a proper IP address that is why they are more expensive than BeFibre.

There may be an exclusivity deal for 1 or 2 years it is not unusual CityFibre certainly have in the past before they open up to all resellers not heard of Full Fibre Ltd doing it though.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

I thought the financial year started 6 Aprils and financial quarters would start from April as well (not from January) but I am no expert. Are fiscal quarters the same as financial quarters?

I have no idea. But I just wish Openreach site just put live date on it subject to non issues rather than Build planned between now and Dec-2026 are not very helpful at all.

They tried that with FTTC and people complained to the ASA and Ofcom.