All well documented and unfortunately all academic. We are where we are.

Virgin Media are absolutely an Internet business. Phone paid the bills for a while and Internet took the mantle. The XGSPON areas only have Over The Top TV as an option.

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All well documented and unfortunately all academic. We are where we are.

History is fascinating, but doesn’t change where we are today.

Virgin Media are absolutely an Internet business. Phone paid the bills for a while and Internet took the mantle. The XGSPON areas only have Over The Top TV as an option.

Friends of mine moved away from VM when the recording TV box stopped actually doing a recording for most of the channels and just sent you to on-demand.

It is inevitable but for now infrastructure competition maximises the chance of newer tech and market advancement.

FTTP at first glance its like wow we doing it albeit even if its a decade late, but then read we using tech thats already "old" on "new" deployments aka GPON.

CityFibre already announced plans to deploy XGS-PON and like other alt-nets full up/down speeds but from what I can observe OR have no public plans to deploy above GPON and will probably maintain these slightly better than 10:1 up/down ratios.

Cant help but feel that would be what we would be stuck on if everyone was just reselling Openreach local infrastructure. This is the company that didnt even bother with vectoring and still dont have g.inp on a large portion of its VDSL footprint, just sweat it all. Then they tried to deploy G.Fast in a way it wasnt intended to be deployed.

As a bonus they also not even deploying in most of my city, it seems the densely populated city isnt enough of a business case. They have one of the strangest FTTP rollouts I have seen with it being quite rural heavy.

Told some European friends I am finally getting 1000/1000 soon, and they like thats meh, one has 5000/5000 and the other is soon to get even faster.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 21-Apr-24 20:15:27)

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CityFibre already announced plans to deploy XGS-PON and like other alt-nets full up/down speeds but from what I can observe OR have no public plans to deploy above GPON and will probably maintain these slightly better than 10:1 up/down ratios.

Or not: see the 1800/120 Mbps product. The 1200/120 Mbps manages 10:1 but 180 Mbps on GPON just a bridge too far: that 1000/220 Mbps business service with the £600 (Inc VAT) install fee and monthly rate over double the 1800/120 and 2.5 times the 1000/115 won't sell itself and, apparently, no-one else will sell it either.

They're behaving like a cable company restricted by a below mid-split HFC network

Yeah forgot about that one.