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Additional info (unfortunately cannot edit previous post as too long has past).
HeyB do not have their own DNS servers (at least not for home use), They use google (8.8.8.8) + cloudflare (1.1.1.1).
Only found this out because current free use of a spam filter started bouncing as the spam filter company don't allow use of public dns without a login.
So choice was either get a spam filter login, or setup a private DNS server.
No biggy, just hadn't realised.
Ugh that kind of sux a little bit! Means our uncached requests need to flow through more hops to resolve name to IP address. Ideally would've been better hosted within the ISP's network (for shorter hops)
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Cloudflare, Google etc. will resolve from London so probably still same latency, or at least very close.
I get 5ms to Cloudflare as an example.
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Cloudflare, Google etc. will resolve from London so probably still same latency, or at least very close.
I get 5ms to Cloudflare as an example.
The signs of this ISP being new to the broadband game are definitely showing ... peering, default cgnat, lack of self hosted dns servers etc... but I guess beggars can't be chooses if that's the only fibre provider currently in the area!
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Yes I think they have been setup with as low capital expenditure as possible, basically "just enough" to provide a basic internet service. End game in their plan is likely being brought out by a bigger player.
Lack of DNS is likely the smallest issue out of what you listed though, I actually dont use ISP hosted DNS as a preference, and ultimately they still better than having no FTTP availability.
Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 02-May-24 19:01:16)
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Yes I think they have been setup with as low capital expenditure as possible, basically "just enough" to provide a basic internet service. End game in their plan is likely being brought out by a bigger player.
Good point, and agree!
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There are other ISPs offering services using F&W networks fibre, see here:
https://fwnetworks.co.uk/partner-with-us/current-par...
I can't vouch for any of them however. Hey!Broadband was definitely set up as the partner ISP of F&W networks, but they do offer wholesale to other ISPs.
Unfortunately the larger ISPs only seem interested in using Cityfibre's wholesale offering.
Hey!Broadband 1Gb Fibre - Live BQM
Asus AC86U - Asuswrt Merlin
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Yeah there is a degree of risk averseness within the sector, and even Cityfibre isnt enough of a pull for all of them, Sky arent involved, and on my FEX there is no Talktalk/Zen. Vodafone is the only big one on there.
Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 04-May-24 21:01:58)
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Last time I asked, they will give you a dynamic IP gratis or you can pay £5/month for a static.
For DNS, you could always spin up an instance of Unbound and/or with PiHole in front. It's trivially easy to setup if you have any Linux experience.
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Last time I asked, they will give you a dynamic IP gratis or you can pay £5/month for a static.
For DNS, you could always spin up an instance of Unbound and/or with PiHole in front. It's trivially easy to setup if you have any Linux experience.
Interesting idea, but will it give me the resolved IP from a source that's taken minimal hops? That's what I'm fundamentally after ... The benefit of using ISP's DNS servers is that it's their network at the very start so it means low hops to get the resolved IP address.
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It'll be on your local LAN. You can either configure Unbound to forward on a request to a public DNS Server like Cloudflare, Quad9 etc or put Unbound into recursive mode where it'll go out and query Root names servers to find the authoritative name servers to resolve the name. Whilst that would be slower on the first look up, the record would be cached after that. Any name server including a 'local' ISP one would have to do the same.
Either way, both options will cache records locally up to their TTL.....so it would be faster than using an ISP provided name server as the majority of requests would be fulfilled by a cache on your local LAN.
Edited by nofappingway (Tue 07-May-24 16:47:27)
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