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Administrator seb
(founder) Tue 11-Jun-24 08:02:20
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Re: Altnet vs BT Wholesale ISP's (pricing)


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We have just signed to an Alt-net as there are no openreach plans to fibre up, for a 1Gb/300 connection for £29/month fixed.
Happy with that!


May end up rising in cost over time, but still sounds like an awesome service smile

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Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 11-Jun-24 09:48:51
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I signed up to an Altnet just over 18 months ago. £35pcm for 1Gb/1Gb.

Just renewed for another 18 months. £29pcm for 1Gb/1Gb!


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Administrator seb
(founder) Tue 11-Jun-24 09:58:17
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I signed up to an Altnet just over 18 months ago. £35pcm for 1Gb/1Gb.
Just renewed for another 18 months. £29pcm for 1Gb/1Gb!


Most are building market share. I suspect the prices will go up a bit in longer term smile

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Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 11-Jun-24 10:03:20
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Re: Altnet vs BT Wholesale ISP's (pricing)


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I'm sure in the long term the altnets be bought/merge into a few big players, then the pricing will inevitably go up.

What I can't understand is why they'd give the the same service cheaper on renewing, when they're currently my only option for FTTP for now, and it's cheaper than a decent VDSL service provider!

Not that I'm complaining! I'll enjoy it whilst it lasts.


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 11-Jun-24 11:21:20
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[re: AndyPandy] [link to this post]
 
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I'm sure in the long term the altnets be bought/merge into a few big players, then the pricing will inevitably go up.

What I can't understand is why they'd give the the same service cheaper on renewing, when they're currently my only option for FTTP for now, and it's cheaper than a decent VDSL service provider!

Not that I'm complaining! I'll enjoy it whilst it lasts.


Logically it makes sense, acquiring a customer has costs attached such as marketing and setup costs, so logically new customer would pay more.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 11-Jun-24 11:23:04)

Administrator seb
(founder) Tue 11-Jun-24 12:42:52
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Logically it makes sense, acquiring a customer has costs attached such as marketing and setup costs, so logically new customer would pay more.


You're assuming customer acquisition costs are borne in first term. Experience shows that's not the case smile

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 11-Jun-24 14:35:59
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
Logically it makes sense, acquiring a customer has costs attached such as marketing and setup costs, so logically new customer would pay more.


You're assuming customer acquisition costs are borne in first term. Experience shows that's not the case smile


Well I assume a utopia situation yeah, reality is of course customers constantly move about and ISPs are fighting for the movers, like in elections swing seats getting the focus.

Standard User daern
(regular) Tue 11-Jun-24 15:23:14
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What I can't understand is why they'd give the the same service cheaper on renewing, when they're currently my only option for FTTP for now, and it's cheaper than a decent VDSL service provider!

TBH, I'm in the same boat with Youfibre. No other FTTP available and they are the first altnet up the road, but I'll be paying 30% less for 1000/1000 than I was paying for 35/5 with Voda, frozen for two years.
I assume they have standardised pricing regardless of competition, which is pretty cool TBH.

Edited by daern (Tue 11-Jun-24 15:23:49)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jun-24 16:41:21
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Most are building market share. I suspect the prices will go up a bit in longer term smile

The one outside my door has had the same price for 6 years, and only just moved from £25/m to £29. They only have the one product, can't see the point in variable speed tiers, so its 900 / 900 Mbps. I can see their point, hope the infrastructure and run costs are sustainable at that price. Under half of what I pay for 250/25....

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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Tue 11-Jun-24 19:05:22
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The one outside my door has had the same price for 6 years, and only just moved from £25/m to £29. They only have the one product, can't see the point in variable speed tiers, so its 900 / 900 Mbps. I can see their point, hope the infrastructure and run costs are sustainable at that price. Under half of what I pay for 250/25....

Since OR-based ISPs can sell FTTP packages that retail at £30, then in principle yes. But it depends on (a) network take-up, and (b) scale, when running or outsourcing their ISP network, billing systems etc.

You're right though that the speed makes no difference: it costs them the same to support a 900/900 or a 100/100 service, except possibly for the odd person who fileshares and fills the uplink 24x7 (but they're taking a chance that there aren't too many of those)
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