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Standard User daern
(regular) Sun 16-Jun-24 11:39:07
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Re: YouFibre and EEro Router Pro.


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
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That Arris box has GPON fibre interface. It sounds like it IS the ONT, perhaps not wall mounted as they've supplied an integrated ONT & Router in one? You may have to see if it can be put in a "modem mode" or similar.


It might do (I admit I've not checked), but I also have a separate, Netomnia-branded ONT with a 2.5G ethernet connection to the Arris router.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 16-Jun-24 11:55:33
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Re: YouFibre and EEro Router Pro.


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It might do (I admit I've not checked), but I also have a separate, Netomnia-branded ONT with a 2.5G ethernet connection to the Arris router.
Sounds more traditional.

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Standard User daern
(regular) Sun 16-Jun-24 15:36:44
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Re: YouFibre and EEro Router Pro.


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
You're quite right about the router having fibre capability, but Youfibre haven't installed mine like that, instead providing a standalone ONT (with 2.5G ethernet for my 1000/1000 service) alongside the router:

https://imgur.com/a/eSW0i0g

My guess is that, in most cases, they probably will keep the two separate, which certainly suits me better.


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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(committed) Sun 16-Jun-24 17:10:32
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Re: YouFibre and EEro Router Pro.


[re: daern] [link to this post]
 
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You're quite right about the router having fibre capability, but Youfibre haven't installed mine like that, instead providing a standalone ONT (with 2.5G ethernet for my 1000/1000 service) alongside the router:

https://imgur.com/a/eSW0i0g

My guess is that, in most cases, they probably will keep the two separate, which certainly suits me better.


I have the exact same install, other than a 1GB adtran ONT, the Arris would not work on their network as they use XGSPon

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Standard User daern
(regular) Thu 27-Jun-24 12:39:18
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Re: YouFibre and EEro Router Pro.


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Complicated how? Using your own router should just be a case of connect your own router up and you should get an IP from DHCP

There is some confusion about this. I believe in the past there was some static MAC binding going on that you had to ask Youfibre to remove before it would accept a new router, but I have strong suspicions that, these days, it will just plug in and work. Tell you in a week! wink


Can confirm this is correct, those days of MAC bindings are long gone!

Should just be a case of unplug old router, plug in new one but if you do have issue just ask CS to clear your sessions and you should be good to go.

My service went live yesterday, so thought it worth adding my experience here for the sake of any future customers doing the same.

The ONT / network does indeed enforce a MAC binding. It only allows a single MAC address on the ONT at a time, and won't issue an IP address if a lease is already active. The lease is one hour, so the upshot of this is that you need to plug in your new router and then wait an hour for the DHCP lease to expire, at which point the new router will be issued with a DHCP lease for the new MAC address and it will all work perfectly. Restarting the ONT does not speed things up here - I was still getting DHCP NAKs back even after this was done. Just wait it out and it will start working. Alternatively, unplug the stock router for an hour before switching across and you can enjoy a seamless transition. Just don't be impatient like me!

You can use MAC cloning too, but I seemed to be having issues with that, probably due to OPNSense + Proxmox refusing to allow it. YMMV with different hardware.
Standard User BXW
(newbie) Tue 20-Aug-24 18:51:42
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This thread was originally asking about whether the eero router was any good but seemed to be hijacked about getting YouFibre installed and how to connect other routers. Does anyone have any good news about eero routers?
Standard User gfibre
(newbie) Wed 21-Aug-24 09:50:05
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[re: daern] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by daern:
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There is some confusion about this. I believe in the past there was some static MAC binding going on that you had to ask Youfibre to remove before it would accept a new router, but I have strong suspicions that, these days, it will just plug in and work. Tell you in a week! wink


Can confirm this is correct, those days of MAC bindings are long gone!

Should just be a case of unplug old router, plug in new one but if you do have issue just ask CS to clear your sessions and you should be good to go.

My service went live yesterday, so thought it worth adding my experience here for the sake of any future customers doing the same.

The ONT / network does indeed enforce a MAC binding. It only allows a single MAC address on the ONT at a time, and won't issue an IP address if a lease is already active. The lease is one hour, so the upshot of this is that you need to plug in your new router and then wait an hour for the DHCP lease to expire, at which point the new router will be issued with a DHCP lease for the new MAC address and it will all work perfectly. Restarting the ONT does not speed things up here - I was still getting DHCP NAKs back even after this was done. Just wait it out and it will start working. Alternatively, unplug the stock router for an hour before switching across and you can enjoy a seamless transition. Just don't be impatient like me!

You can use MAC cloning too, but I seemed to be having issues with that, probably due to OPNSense + Proxmox refusing to allow it. YMMV with different hardware.


Just to clarify what i meant by this, in the old days your static IP was reserved using your MAC, this isn't the case anymore, you don't need to tell CS the MAC of the router you'll be using.

If the router doesn't release the lease properly then yes you'll need to wait an hour for the lease to expire, or as you mentioned just clone the MAC
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